2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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venkyhere wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 23:04
There is no way to 'more than compensate' the time loss due to lifting by time gain via extra deployment. It's better commentators who have no technical knowledge keep to the driving aspects and not go for 'extra smart points' by guess-broadcasting their idea of science/engg.
Yes there is... Otherwise there wouldn't be any superclipping whatsoever.

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mzso wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:02
venkyhere wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 20:46
zibby43 wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 20:11


Didn’t Ferrari just successfully petition the FIA to nerf Merc’s diffuser?
Because FIA had nerfed a similar diffuser from Ferrari long ago. It would have been 'too obvious' had they allowed Mercedes' since it's a 'visible part'. FIA's hand was forced this time, purely due to 'precedent'.
And before that they always made decisions that helped Ferrari, formt he mid 90s to the late 2010s at least including the cheat engine years where no punishment was given. Nothing new...
Yes, agree. FIA were firm and square in Ferrari's pocket for atleast a decade and a half. Now, in Mercedes' pocket over the past decade.

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SchuMassa wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 16:19
edu2703 wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 15:51
Pathetic race from Charles...
He is lucky to have signed an extension earlier this year, because his recent performance is not worthy a seat at Ferrari
He has been trouncing Hamilton for a year and some, but never mind that. I guess a couple of you have been salivating for a couple of poor results (a lot of which were brake related)...

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sucof wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 23:49
mzso wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 16:27
sucof wrote:
26 Jun 2026, 19:26


omg... it was just an exaggeration to illustrate my point...
If you would think a bit, would never have thought otherwise, as I was talking about how the time of the engineers are the most important...
Nevermind...............
You were talking nonsense. And you pretend to have been witty.
Please stop. You do not understand what others are saying, and you arrogantly mocking and molesting them.
No, I do not pretend, you just do not understand language and thoughts... stop.
I precisely understand that you were talking nonsense, then trying to explain it away.

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mzso wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:09
SchuMassa wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 16:19
edu2703 wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 15:51
Pathetic race from Charles...
He is lucky to have signed an extension earlier this year, because his recent performance is not worthy a seat at Ferrari
He has been trouncing Hamilton for a year and some, but never mind that. I guess a couple of you have been salivating for a couple of poor results (a lot of which were brake related)...
Definitely. Hamilton was so poor that even after decades of racing with Mercedes engine powered cars switched team, with last year of regs which blunted his feelings, a new team to adapt and one hell of a race engineer got thrashed by the generational qualifier. This year poor Charles couldn't get hold of brake unfortunately which he mastered till last year but then he is the greatest qualifier of this generation so, how could he lack. It must the brakes.
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.

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its another week of driver war? for crying out loud, grow up guys.. this is scuderia ferrari thread.. go make another thread to cry over this..

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mzso wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 16:59

Astonishing capacity to make up narratives that don't exist in reality.
Unfortunately that is how it is for decades.

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Fakepivot wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:19
its another week of driver war? for crying out loud, grow up guys.. this is scuderia ferrari thread.. go make another thread to cry over this..
no matter the result it always devolves into driver v driver :lol:

But anyway i think they'll be much better at Silverstone, not having to deal with high altitudes and there being high speed corners which theyre good at

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Both drivers didn't do very well. Just heard Fred's interview. He said they have absolutely no idea why their deg was so bad. It was hotter in fp1 and 2 and they didn't have this bad deg. Was there a drastic setup change between fp3 and quali? Or have ferrari now gotten into the Toyota curse of setting up the car for quali and hoping for the best in the race?

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RonMexico wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 21:13
Glad to see so many posters back again, has it really been 4 years already?
guess why? :lol:
SchuMassa wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 15:10
Leclerc doing Leclerc things. Very poor...
What did he do? I only watched the last 25 laps.

Hard for me to say anything about the race but, going by the results, without proper context, it seems Ferrari is back at 4th car place. Red Bull took a big jump with their updated car and threatened Mercedes while doing the same strategy (2 stops) and no VSC fluke, unlike Ferrari.

Red Bull had a very poor car at the first few races (bar Melbourne) and was fighting Audi.Now they are fighting Mercedes while Ferrari is not improving enough.

Over the years, it has been shown that Red Bull and Mclaren are the teams that are most capable of in-season development while Ferrari tends to start well and then fails to update the cars in a satisfying pace. Silverstone will paint a clearer picture but the trend seems to be continuing...

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Jdn1327 wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:36
Both drivers didn't do very well. Just heard Fred's interview. He said they have absolutely no idea why their deg was so bad. It was hotter in fp1 and 2 and they didn't have this bad deg. Was there a drastic setup change between fp3 and quali? Or have ferrari now gotten into the Toyota curse of setting up the car for quali and hoping for the best in the race?
Yea they overhauled the setup after fp2 cause both drivers werent happy with the car but i guess whatever they did affected their race pace more than they expected and nobody did long runs in fp3 iirc

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Fred -
It's clear that we've been suffering from a power deficit since the start of the season; we knew it, and we still do. Even with the ADUO, we can't hope for a magic wand to solve everything overnight. We'll improve, but it will take time—and even more so when it comes to the engine. When you're battling the others, that deficit becomes even more glaring because you get easily overtaken on the straights and lose positions on track. But that can't be an excuse. I don't think we had the pace to compete with the two Mercedes, and we probably overreacted. We pushed too hard at the start of the race to stay with them and destroyed our tires. We should have managed the race better by focusing a bit more on the McLarens.

I think at the start, Charles was more convinced about doing two stops, then we changed strategy, and it was the wrong call. In the end, he was able to benefit from the virtual safety car, but honestly, I think the result was influenced by the fact that we paid too much attention to Mercedes. If we had managed the race differently, we probably would have overtaken the McLarens. But there's no 'Leclerc alert.' I hope he can get competitive again quickly. Today, it was mostly a matter of overheating. We practically ruined our race from the first few laps by trying to stay in touch with Mercedes and Red Bull. It wasn't a pace issue. Compared to McLaren, we were in the mix. With Mercedes and Max, it was more complicated. We pushed too hard in the opening laps to stay with them, and that compromised our race.

It was a tough circuit for us, and we already knew that. At Barcelona, there are lots of fast corners in quick succession, where the car is pushed to its limits, and those characteristics suited our car better. We weren't champions at Barcelona, but that doesn't make us idiots. Every weekend is a different story. Conditions change, temperatures change, and car behaviour changes. Last week, Mercedes struggled; this weekend, they got back to winning ways. There are six or seven cars grouped within two tenths, and it's normal for each circuit to favour different characteristics. I don't think we had everything in place from Friday. It was a pretty tough Friday; we hadn't done the long runs in the same conditions as the race, and today, we paid the price. We need to keep working with the same approach, analyze what happened, and react from the next race onward.
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Luscion wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:54
Jdn1327 wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:36
Both drivers didn't do very well. Just heard Fred's interview. He said they have absolutely no idea why their deg was so bad. It was hotter in fp1 and 2 and they didn't have this bad deg. Was there a drastic setup change between fp3 and quali? Or have ferrari now gotten into the Toyota curse of setting up the car for quali and hoping for the best in the race?
Yea they overhauled the setup after fp2 cause both drivers werent happy with the car but i guess whatever they did affected their race pace more than they expected and nobody did long runs in fp3 iirc
It's a strange one. Hamilton said he expected high deg. during the cool down drive so it couldn't have been a complete surprise.

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Artur Craft wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:40
RonMexico wrote:
27 Jun 2026, 21:13
Glad to see so many posters back again, has it really been 4 years already?
guess why? :lol:
SchuMassa wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 15:10
Leclerc doing Leclerc things. Very poor...
What did he do? I only watched the last 25 laps.

Hard for me to say anything about the race but, going by the results, without proper context, it seems Ferrari is back at 4th car place. Red Bull took a big jump with their updated car and threatened Mercedes while doing the same strategy (2 stops) and no VSC fluke, unlike Ferrari.

Red Bull had a very poor car at the first few races (bar Melbourne) and was fighting Audi.Now they are fighting Mercedes while Ferrari is not improving enough.

Over the years, it has been shown that Red Bull and Mclaren are the teams that are most capable of in-season development while Ferrari tends to start well and then fails to update the cars in a satisfying pace. Silverstone will paint a clearer picture but the trend seems to be continuing...
I watched the entire race and I was a bit baffled. Hamilton looked really strong early on until... he didn't. Tires really fell of a cliff it seems. Bit of a hail mary to pit Hamilton during VSC for softs. Did not really work out (doh). Leclerc looked a bit slow from the start tbh. Power deficit was pretty clear imo (clearest it has been to me anyway). It was a weird race for Ferrari, a lot worse than I expected.

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Hammerfist wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 16:37
I’m afraid his problems are deeper than that. Ever since the crash at Miami he has not been good. There’s a fundamental issue with him and that car and the way it’s being developed.
I think for the first time ever I´ll agree with you. Leclerc seems in trouble with the car´s handling. I have no idea if it is related to the odd regulations that we have or if it´s just due to a way Ferrari developed their car.

If I was forced to bet, I would put my money on Hamilton outqualifying Lec both times at Silverstone and finishing well ahead on the Sprint and the GP. I´m just not too sure how Ferrari will perform related to the other 3 teams ahead
PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 16:39
I'm also humbled that we really have no chance to win any championships this year. The Mercedes engine is just too strong and our car seems to hurt the tyres on power tracks.
Please, if you will, share the truth, were you among the ones dreaming with it after Barcelona ?