2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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I think the team might run afoul of the 107% rule next week. It was very close here. #-o

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V10FURY wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 21:32
I think the team might run afoul of the 107% rule next week. It was very close here. #-o
Why do you think that? The team was within 104% in qualifying at Austria.

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diffuser wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:30
mzso wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:15
diffuser wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 02:48
Shintaro Orihara was asked what he thought Honda would do if the FIA went to a naturally aspirated v8, he said he thought Honda would pull out of F1.
Well, so far has been no talk whatsoever of NA engines. Only V8-s.
If sound is what your after, the NA is the way to go. Also ban variable valve timing and you'll get those really cool sounding idling ICEs.
Variable valve timing is already banned. From the F1 2026 Technical Regulations:
5.9 Variable geometry systems
5.9.1 With the exception of wastegates, variable geometry exhaust systems are not permitted. No
form of variable geometry turbine (VGT) or variable nozzle turbine (VNT) or any device to
adjust the gas throat section at the inlet to the turbine wheel is permitted.

5.9.2 Variable valve timing and variable valve lift profile systems are not permitted.

5.9.3 Moveable trumpets are not permitted, and any geometry conveying the air from the
compressor outlet to the cylinder inlet must be fixed, except the throttles and the pop off valves.

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Rodak wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 23:13
diffuser wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:30
mzso wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 17:15


Well, so far has been no talk whatsoever of NA engines. Only V8-s.
If sound is what your after, the NA is the way to go. Also ban variable valve timing and you'll get those really cool sounding idling ICEs.
Variable valve timing is already banned. From the F1 2026 Technical Regulations:
5.9 Variable geometry systems
5.9.1 With the exception of wastegates, variable geometry exhaust systems are not permitted. No
form of variable geometry turbine (VGT) or variable nozzle turbine (VNT) or any device to
adjust the gas throat section at the inlet to the turbine wheel is permitted.

5.9.2 Variable valve timing and variable valve lift profile systems are not permitted.

5.9.3 Moveable trumpets are not permitted, and any geometry conveying the air from the
compressor outlet to the cylinder inlet must be fixed, except the throttles and the pop off valves.

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Jambier wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 19:38
Is he serious about the V8?

They will be introduced in 2031 or 2030.
So they will quit f1 in 3 -4 years again?
So far it's just a dictator's blatant demagogy. Unknown what, if anything will become of it. Though apparently mentioning NA explicitly was carefully avoided.
The last time they made big claims when Ross Brawn was involved with new regs everything remained the same.

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V10FURY wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 21:32
I think the team might run afoul of the 107% rule next week. It was very close here. #-o
They were lucky the Mercedes had their engines so detuned in Q1. Without a yellow flag, George would have done a 1:05.8 or so in Q3. No Aston upgrades for the next 2 races it sounds like, so this team will slip even further behind. Red Bull brought a huge step, and Mercedes can upgrade their engine now which seems pretty ridiculous! 😂

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V10FURY wrote:
29 Jun 2026, 07:17
V10FURY wrote:
28 Jun 2026, 21:32
I think the team might run afoul of the 107% rule next week. It was very close here. #-o
They were lucky the Mercedes had their engines so detuned in Q1. Without a yellow flag, George would have done a 1:05.8 or so in Q3. No Aston upgrades for the next 2 races it sounds like, so this team will slip even further behind. Red Bull brought a huge step, and Mercedes can upgrade their engine now which seems pretty ridiculous! 😂
It's measure in Q1 right? Only the top 16 make it into Q2 and in Austria there was a 1.2 second gap from 1st to 17th. There is no advantage over finishing first in Q1 to finishing 16th. The teams at the sharp end on the grid have no reason to push hard in Q1. The ones that finish 18th through 14th do but they really can't do better than that. So even though Aston should have already not made the 107% rule, the system is kind of rigged for them to keep making it.

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Undercut: Adrain Newey interview and upcoming upgrade and work on 27 car.
https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now

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abhi1200 wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 11:01
Undercut: Adrain Newey interview and upcoming upgrade and work on 27 car.
https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now
It’s actually crazy that they were able to make a car in the first place.

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abhi1200 wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 11:01
Undercut: Adrain Newey interview and upcoming upgrade and work on 27 car.
https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now
The upgrade
Let's get back to the car. The team has been working on a major upgrade. When are we going to see it?

"We plan to introduce our upgrade in Hungary on both cars."

Structurally, how big a change is this upgrade? Are we talking new car or heavy evolution?

"The main structural elements remain the same – the chassis and gearbox architecture don't fundamentally change – but we've taken weight out of both, which required re-homologating and crash testing the forward chassis.

"The front suspension is unchanged. The rear suspension is slightly revised. We've developed a new nose and substantially revised aerodynamic surfaces. So, while the core structure is similar, it's a big aerodynamic package coupled with significant weight reduction. The target is to get very close to the weight limit."

New colision test? a huge change for a simple upgrade

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You sense the 'where we're going' bit is particularly important for Fernando. Time isn't exactly on his side. How important is this upgrade for him?

"It's very important. Fernando is really looking forward to the upgrade and, if it performs we hope he'll be in the cockpit for another season.

"Given his experience, his feel for the car, his ability to guide development, he's a tremendous asset. But he wants to see clear, tangible progress. If we can show that we're moving decisively in the right direction, he's absolutely committed to being behind the wheel."

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Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 12:59
abhi1200 wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 11:01
Undercut: Adrain Newey interview and upcoming upgrade and work on 27 car.
https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now
The upgrade
Let's get back to the car. The team has been working on a major upgrade. When are we going to see it?

"We plan to introduce our upgrade in Hungary on both cars."

Structurally, how big a change is this upgrade? Are we talking new car or heavy evolution?

"The main structural elements remain the same – the chassis and gearbox architecture don't fundamentally change – but we've taken weight out of both, which required re-homologating and crash testing the forward chassis.

"The front suspension is unchanged. The rear suspension is slightly revised. We've developed a new nose and substantially revised aerodynamic surfaces. So, while the core structure is similar, it's a big aerodynamic package coupled with significant weight reduction. The target is to get very close to the weight limit."

New colision test? a huge change for a simple upgrade
? When silent is better, be silent.

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etusch wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 14:05
Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 12:59
abhi1200 wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 11:01
Undercut: Adrain Newey interview and upcoming upgrade and work on 27 car.
https://www.astonmartinf1.com/en-GB/new ... ee-you-now
The upgrade
Let's get back to the car. The team has been working on a major upgrade. When are we going to see it?

"We plan to introduce our upgrade in Hungary on both cars."

Structurally, how big a change is this upgrade? Are we talking new car or heavy evolution?

"The main structural elements remain the same – the chassis and gearbox architecture don't fundamentally change – but we've taken weight out of both, which required re-homologating and crash testing the forward chassis.

"The front suspension is unchanged. The rear suspension is slightly revised. We've developed a new nose and substantially revised aerodynamic surfaces. So, while the core structure is similar, it's a big aerodynamic package coupled with significant weight reduction. The target is to get very close to the weight limit."

New colision test? a huge change for a simple upgrade
? When silent is better, be silent.
Why this agressive? just a simples question, i think its a really huge change because they needed a new colision test.

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I think calling what the Aston engineering team did "simple" is aggressive and even insulting. In fact, not just for Aston, but for anyone who fails to meet the minimum weight limit.

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etusch wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 17:03
I think calling what the Aston engineering team did "simple" is aggressive and even insulting. In fact, not just for Aston, but for anyone who fails to meet the minimum weight limit.
I meant : " they probably will bring a entire new car because they needed a new colision test and not just a 'simple upgrade"