Karun Chandhok

[ISLAMATRON]

You said

Islamatron I disagree, Narain pitted before Monteiro near enough all the time. Monteiro kept his nose clean and finished races while Narain spun off a couple of times too.

and I provided you with proof that what you said was false

Islamatron those stats are abysmal. Very convaluted and make no sense at all.
Besides did you actually see what i said? Monteiro is a better RACER.
He finished more and he finished ahead of his Team mate more often than not.

At one stage Takuma Sato was leading Button in quali's, it doesnt mean Jack.
Especially in those days of fuel corrected quali times.

If I was a team owner, I would have Monteiro, finished.

Nothing wrong with the "stats", which they are not(they are facts)... it is the pit stop summary from the races cleary showing that Narain almost always pitted after Tiego. Its not my fault if you cant read the table.

It is easy to be a better racer when you are slow and not pushing the limit, or are just incapable of doing so.

Is see facts & proper analysis dont mean anything to you so it is not worth my time to discuss this with you any further.

The dirty american food thing was a joke but I always forget people around here suffer from a total lack of any sense of humour.

[Moanlower]

Here some more facts http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/701/career/

Still has to prove he's also fast in a fast car.

[marcush.]

his comments in Autosport about possibly points scoring in the later half of the season seems a bit naive....
One step after the other is a good start and he would do go to restrain himself from
impossible tasks ,at least on merit HRT has with the headstart of all others a step
mountain to climb and will inevitably remain last for quite a while.
So speaking of reducing the gap to virgin and lotus would have beeen a realistic aim
for their debut season and everything on top (not staying last)is really an achievement.

[JohnsonEvilTwin]

Stops No Driver Team Lap Time Of Day Time Total Pit Time
1 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 18 14:28:17 25.553 25.553
1 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 24 14:36:04 25.539 25.539
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 25 14:36:53 24.824 24.824
1 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 25 14:37:21 26.330 26.330
1 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 25 14:38:36 23.409 23.409
1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 27 14:39:55 23.952 23.952
1 14 David Coulthard RBR-Cosworth 27 14:40:19 24.663 24.663
1 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 27 14:40:21 24.313 24.313
1 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 29 14:42:30 22.810 22.810
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 29 14:42:41 19.941 19.941
1 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 28 14:42:54 24.362 24.362
1 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 29 14:43:07 24.689 24.689
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 30 14:44:18 25.544 45.485
1 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 31 14:45:46 25.257 25.257
1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 32 14:46:31 24.245 24.245
1 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 34 14:49:40 26.307 26.307
2 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 40 14:57:06 50.613 1:13.423
2 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 43 15:01:18 24.817 50.370
2 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 44 15:02:31 30.526 54.771
2 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 45 15:06:26 23.336 47.698
2 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 46 15:07:28 25.555 48.964
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 49 15:08:10 24.261 49.085
2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 49 15:08:37 21.980 45.932
2 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 51 15:11:37 21.732 47.271
2 14 David Coulthard RBR-Cosworth 51 15:12:00 21.814 46.477
2 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 52 15:12:53 21.651 47.981
2 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 52 15:13:23 21.077 45.390
2 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 55 15:17:19 21.152 45.841
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 56 15:18:27 20.122 1:05.60


Need I say more?

[JohnsonEvilTwin]

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[JohnsonEvilTwin]

12-7 Islamatron

Stats mean nothing to me eh? You posted War and Peace to make an invalid point.
Was it to confuse the issue? Or paper over a weak argument?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Glad thats settled then!

[ISLAMATRON]

again, not my fault you cant or refuse to read a basic table

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Ouch!

That hurts.....NOT
I can read it all right, but I cant help thinking why you need it?
Yes he came in later(to pit), I was wrong. But you claimed he was the better driver which I disputed.
I wont tug your chain any longer ISLAMATRON, but 12-7 in favour of Monteiro is pretty compelling wouldnt you say?

Salaam alaikum

[ISLAMATRON]

Yes you were wrong, and if counting 12-7 on your fingers and toes is the extent of your analysis abilities i can see why it is difficult for you to read the table.

Did you not notice mechanical DNF's for NK every third race?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Oh dear,

Your surmising appears to have got the better of you. Does a DNF not count?
I see your spoiling for a lengthy and quite pointless argument.
The fact remains thus ISLAMATRON 12-7 to Thiago.

OR we could discuss Kimi Raikkonen who is a 2005 world champ(DNF's dont count right?)

Keep the BS coming.......

[ISLAMATRON]

To each their own... I guess some people choose to form their opionins on incorrect "facts", and lazy finger counting.

[Fil]

8 of 27 posts mention the title of the thread.. and 6 of those are about his 'manscaped' eyebrows!

the rest is an OT pissing comp



What's Karun's motorsport background - is he deserving of an F1 seat?

I am assuming he's heavily backed to land the seat.. who are his personal sponsors who have helped him grab the final HRT seat?

[ISLAMATRON]

big money questionable talant

Seena was 8th, KC was 16th in their rookie GP2 year 2007 on different teams

2008, and on the same team, Senna was 2nd, KC was 10th

[JohnsonEvilTwin]

fil

The tangent this thread has taken has all to do with a certain poster's insistance that Karthikayan was a better driver than Monteiro. Fair enough if that poster feels that way, but not when he starts spouting it as fact.

Measuring a driver is a very subjective exercize. But the universal method which all INFORMED people can accept is wether they can beat their team-mate in a race.
Thiago did that 12-7. No reams of pointless data that shows qualifying performances or pit stops or other stats TO CLOUD THE ISSUE.
JUST THE STAT THAT MATTERS. 12-7

And Islamatron, you point and prod like a politician when the facts are insurmountable. Having surveyed your responses to other posters, it appears that even though you are wrong, you will keep your line of attack to save face.
Reagrdless of whatever attack you think up next, 12-7 is FACT. SIMPLE FACT