Australian GP 2010 - Melbourne

[timd]

Put simply for me its like Red bull brought last years car with last years fuel level and the rest have brought the new dogs along with full tanks

Lets not forget that on full tank Vetel last race was soo fast from the go.

I agree i think Mac has a mechanical problem it seems very stiff.

I also wonder if the provisioning of the F duct is comprimising too much. Maybe they thought it would be their Kers button for this year. ie: allow overtaking opertunities from straight line but that only works if you can keep up in the corners.

Slightly off topic but anyone else notice how horrible bumpy the new teams look. Missing mass dampers ect off kerbs?

[WhiteBlue]

Interesting to see that Alonso and Rosberg ran the most laps – maybe because Alonso was trying hard to get pole while Rosberg may have been just trying to beat Schumacher (who was faster than Rosberg until qualifying began)

Schumacher was untypically slower in Q3 than in Q2. He complained about being impeded by Alonso going slow on his last in lap. Race control and the stewards did not find fault with Alonso's driving. So he probably simply fell victim to traffic.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Autogyro

If it was self level would the nose and wing not dip and rise together rather than a marked difference between the two?
Marcush said to put the cursor over the area and you do notice it alot more, but that is nose flex from higher downforce in my opinion.

The suspension leveling would infact not be noticeable. As the car is always at the optimum height due to the gases escaping during the race.
The wizardry come from the gradual "auto" leveling which must differ from track to track due to the bumpy nature difference track to track.

James Allen seems to think the difference in ride height throughout the race(full to empty tanks) on "normal" cars is only 3mm(Yes 3 millimeters). If this is the case why do Red Bull appear so "high" in ride height. I havent seen the pictures but many posters have pointed to this strange "phenomena".

[djones]

As the clocks change in England tonight I'm really confused...

Does it start 6 or 7 GMT (after the change)

[djos]

So is CH lying through his teeth again or is MW making excuses for his extreme new car being a second slower than the RB?

Sour grapes all the way imo!

[roost89]

As the clocks change in England tonight I'm really confused...

Does it start 6 or 7 GMT (after the change)

6am GMT 7am BST

Official site says 7am and race begins in 7hrs and 50m from now (22:10).
Best way to know, set clock for 6 and if you're up an hour early, you'll be ok.

[marcush.]

the relative movement could be wing,nose or even the camera itself,i have not checked if the cursor would also move relative to the rest of the bodywork ...

but of tcourse if the car had something to adjust ride it would not be noticable
in this vid

What can be seen though is the big movements of suspension in droop after turn in when the inner wheel gets unloaded..so :
this car does not have an ARB in front or if then it is easily overcome by spring forces,as the outside wheel is clearly rising whereas the inner wheel is drooping
quickly...
reflecting my suspicion that Redbull is not much into ARBs at least at the front end
they controll roll in a differetnways,not by stiff springs and not by ARB...

[djones]

I could really do with that extra hour in bed

So based on what the clock says now and pretending the clocks dont change then its 6am start?

But 7 as they go forward 1hr?

[ESPImperium]

According to my Sky EPG the coverage starts at 6am, the race will be at 7am.

Im getting up at 6:30am so as to get my laptop up and running for live timing.

[megz]

correct, you're 12 hours behind New Zealand and it's a 7pm race start here.

[roost89]

Ok you confused lot. Put the clocks forwards, THEN set it for 6am and you'll be just fine.

http://twitter.com/jakehumphreyf1/status/11164683400

I'm with ESP. 0630 alarm is set. Get set up, breakfast then relax and watch.

[autogyro]

I have watched the video carefuly and the front wing is definitely raising under braking and rolling into the corners.
However, the position of the camera and the focul length prevents any conclusion as to whether the tub is moving as well.
The amount of movement on the wing is to much for the whole body of the car not to be moving with the wing IMO.
If this is the case then my suggestion of a self levelling primary suspension based on something similar to the Leyland hydragas system, allowing a secondary soft sprung suspension becomes more likely.
Constant ride height is taken care of by the primary system and the soft sprung secondary allows the car to pitch and roll within the required set up range.
A smoother and more DF generating constant ride height is maintained and when the car rolls in corners the floor edge on the outside gets closer to the ground establishing a semi tunnel effect, creating higher DF.
Such a system would not need to bleed off gas but it would need to be presurized.

[ESPImperium]

6:30am is really a long lie for me, im usually up at 4am on a work-day.

The thing is im gonna get my Sky+ recording as well, as if i miss anything before hand, i can always go back and re-watch it. Or just download the race on Monday/Tuesday when it becomes avalable.

[autogyro]

I remember the Leyland hydragas system used to default very high when the system was pressurized in service or repair.
It returned to ride height level when the vehicle moved as the system was self levelling. It needed a high top stop to give the range needed for operation.
Couple that to an F1 geometry and soft springs instead of the Leyland rubber bump stops and you should have a workable system comparable to the RB6.
I could be way wrong though.

[Mr Alcatraz]

One of a few races I get to watch at a decent hour 11:00 PM PST
Hell, I'm in the pound seats