Australian GP 2010 - Melbourne

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Mr Alcatraz
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Re: Australian GP 2010 (Melbourne)

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Both Ferraris go 40+ laps on softs. Those tires don’t even have 10 good laps in them! That was really incredible. If they had taken on hard's they would have both been on the podium! Hamilton had a good charge but I think it just illustrates an important advantage (although a small one) that the Scuds have on McL'. They are kinder to their tires.
So the Ferrari boys leave the track 1, 2 in the wdc thank you very much. What a way for F1 in general to rebound from Bahrain! That was worth the price of admission!
BTW Congrats to Button big win for him!

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Today was always going to be a good chance for that car I think. Malaysia is a rather different kettle of fish than today or Bahrain. It's the first of the real high and medium speed corner, high downforce circuit. It doesn't look good for McLaren in that department there currently, and both MW and JB tried to pour cold water on how well they might do there. If they have an inherent lack of speed and downforce then qualifying can't just be the only problem for the car.

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Tazio wrote:Both Ferraris go 40 laps on softs. Those tires don’t even have 10 good laps in them! That was really incredible. If they had taken on hard's they would have both been on the podium!
Not sure. Hards might not work at all at that temperature.

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Hamilton should have been able to finish, his first stop was much later than Button's. He and Kubica were basically in the same boat. Tyre wear was not a big issue for Kubica either.
The team made a gamble, becuase of fear of the Redbull and ferrari possible putting in a late stop.
His tyres were good, he was lapping very fast behind Kubica.
One driver being able to care tyres drastically better than the other is overrated, all drivers do a fine job of preserving their tyres when the need arises. I don't think Hamilton had any problems with his.
This race only makes him stronger and more beastly. He is clearly in a league by himself in terms of skill, he should do well next race with a good qualifying, the championship is still very young.
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ringo wrote:Hamilton mass raped the field today, Button was the only one that escaped. Kubica was lucky as well.
This is off topic, but can we get a moratorium on the rape talk? It is an unnecessarily brutal descriptor for a car race.

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Diesel wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote: You need to watch that scene again. Button was half a car length behind Alonso. So how can he have a racing line there? If anybody was to blame at least percentage wise it was Button. Alonso had practically no room to give up. All in all I agree with the stewards that it was a racing accident. It just bugs me that the guy who had the biggest part in bringing it on was the luckiest in avoiding consequences.
Go speak to some ex drivers, they all disagree with you.
Alonso was clearly ahead. it was Button how should have braked to avoid the accident, but he did nothing.

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Diesel wrote:Webber isn't able to drive fast enough to do the car any harm so he just throws it off the track.

Could this failure be related to the aggressive brake caliper position?
Webbo set the fastest lap of the race so that is BS. [-X

It was a carbon disc failure according to the team and that is usually a caused by a defect - RB dont make the carbon discs themselves so it's a supplier issue.
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ringo wrote:Hamilton should have been able to finish, his first stop was much later than Button's. He and Kubica were basically in the same boat. Tyre wear was not a big issue for Kubica either.
The team made a gamble, becuase of fear of the Redbull and ferrari possible putting in a late stop.
His tyres were good, he was lapping very fast behind Kubica.
One driver being able to care tyres drastically better than the other is overrated, all drivers do a fine job of preserving their tyres when the need arises. I don't think Hamilton had any problems with his.
This race only makes him stronger and more beastly. He is clearly in a league by himself in terms of skill, he should do well next race with a good qualifying, the championship is still very young.
Hamilton said on the radio that his tyres are when he caught Alonso. Had he not stopped he of course might finish the race, but he would have to care for his tyres and won't be that fast.

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It was a tough race for Hamilton; But one has to except, he came against some very solid defence today throughout the race. First from Rosberg, then FANTASTICALLY from Kubica and finally, OUTSTANDINGLY from Alonso.
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Congratulations Button, Congratulations HRT for making the finish (well one car anyway) Oh and congratulations Kubica & Renault.

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vall wrote:
Diesel wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote: You need to watch that scene again. Button was half a car length behind Alonso. So how can he have a racing line there? If anybody was to blame at least percentage wise it was Button. Alonso had practically no room to give up. All in all I agree with the stewards that it was a racing accident. It just bugs me that the guy who had the biggest part in bringing it on was the luckiest in avoiding consequences.
Go speak to some ex drivers, they all disagree with you.
Alonso was clearly ahead. it was Button how should have braked to avoid the accident, but he did nothing.
Jumping on the brake would have just caused people to pile in to the back of him. Don't forget he WAS braking at that point for the corner, he would have needed to brake a whole lot harder which is especially hard at the start of the race when the brakes and the tyres aren't quite up to temperature.

Racing incident as decided by the stewards. Button won the race, Alonso finished 4th - put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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djos wrote:It was a carbon disc failure according to the team and that is usually a caused by a defect - RB dont make the carbon discs themselves so it's a supplier issue.
I can't believe in coincidences there though. It could be brake cooling or something else that has caused it, and the engine issues that Renault themselves don't seem to have could be packaging, cooling or something else. There's just too many of these things happening, and they've happened to them during winter testing as well.

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You certainly saw the car's straight line advantage today. I think the other teams will be desperate to get the stalled wing working to stop McLarens punching through their wakes on the straights.

Imagine if they had kept KERS with this....
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Even if it is so,at least they will both finish in Malaysia...Unless some RB smashes both of them... #-o :lol: :lol:

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Diesel wrote:Racing incident as decided by the stewards. Button won the race, Alonso finished 4th - put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I am fine with that - racing accident as you say, but some people want to make it look like it was Alonso's fault