Is Hamilton desperate or what?

[CHT]

I know this is not going to be go very well with most Mclaren/Lewis fans, but after the radion incident yesterday, do you think the Lewis Hamilton will see out his contract with Mclaren?

To me the radio incident was a PR disaster for a company like Mclaren and this is clearly a sign of the fustration building up in Lewis since Australia GP where Button won the race.

My guess is that Ron, through Martin, is going to have a big discussion with Lewis over this radio incident and Lewis being strong headed and without a manager, might not in the best position to make the right decision.

[ISLAMATRON]

What radion incident? More info please? and merge into the desperate thread please,

[Paul]

Oh come on, he didn't even say the f-word. Seriously, clearing up racing strategy while flying a helicopter in your bedroom can sometimes sound angry and frustrated.

[Halgovern]

this is the incident as far as i can remember it.

mclaren : "front brake wear quite high lewis, recommend a more rearward brake bias or looking after the brakes"

LH: (something along the lines of) "am i not even half race distance yet? what the hell guys, i thought I was meant to be racing"

mclaren: "we just need to manage the car at the moment lewis"

hamilton sounded extremely frustrated when he said this. i didnt hear any swearing though.

[CHT]

this is the incident as far as i can remember it.

mclaren : "front brake wear quite high lewis, recommend a more rearward brake bias or looking after the brakes"

LH: (something along the lines of) "am i not even half race distance yet? what the hell guys, i thought I was meant to be racing"

mclaren: "we just need to manage the car at the moment lewis"

hamilton sounded extremely frustrated when he said this. i didnt hear any swearing though.

I think these are the exact words....

A McLaren engineer radios to Hamilton: "Lewis, front brake wear high. We need you to bias to the rear or take it easy."

Hamilton replies: "We're only halfway through the race. What the hell? Do you want me to race these guys or look after the car?"


I believe this is the 2nd time this season Lewis has voiced his frustration over radio. I wont be surprise that he will start swearing soon.

[mx_tifoso]

Nah I don't think it'll go as far as real swearing but he might increase the rate of telling the team to bugger off and let him do what he wishes, which since he isn't at the front means to push as much as possible.

I understand it but I doubt that the team enjoys being told off in public, or that Hamilton be so vocal about his displeasure with the teams decisions.

As to whether he will drift apart from McLaren, it might just be a possibility in a few years once he outgrows the nest. His wings are growing and he's going to want to fly off to new hunting grounds, and Ferrari will be there to welcome his amazing abilities once he's older and more mature.

[CHT]

Nah I don't think it'll go as far as real swearing but he might increase the rate of telling the team to bugger off and let him do what he wishes, which since he isn't at the front means to push as much as possible.

I understand it but I doubt that the team enjoys being told off in public, or that Hamilton be so vocal about his displeasure with the teams decisions.

As to whether he will drift apart from McLaren, it might just be a possibility in a few years once he outgrows the nest. His wings are growing and he's going to want to fly off to new hunting grounds, and Ferrari will be there to welcome his amazing abilities once he's older and more mature.

Swearing will be more straight forward. what Lewis said on radio sounds pretty bad for Mclaren's image, especially at a time when Mclaren is trying to fill their order book with the MP4/12 road car.

[Hangaku]

What a load of nonsense. It's a driver being frustrated, and nothing more.

TBH, I think he's more frustrated with the fact that Monaco is still a "race" on the calendar. Yes it was exciting in parts due to the crashes, but god was it ever dull in terms of racing.

[marcush.]

What a load of nonsense. It's a driver being frustrated, and nothing more.

TBH, I think he's more frustrated with the fact that Monaco is still a "race" on the calendar. Yes it was exciting in parts due to the crashes, but god was it ever dull in terms of racing.

did you watch the same race then me? alonso made good passes -no crash ,Schumacher made a pass in the last corner.. so more overtaking than in Bahrain and other races this year.

[Hangaku]

What a load of nonsense. It's a driver being frustrated, and nothing more.

TBH, I think he's more frustrated with the fact that Monaco is still a "race" on the calendar. Yes it was exciting in parts due to the crashes, but god was it ever dull in terms of racing.

did you watch the same race then me? alonso made good passes -no crash ,Schumacher made a pass in the last corner.. so more overtaking than in Bahrain and other races this year.

What I saw was Alonso overtaking 4 or 5 people that were 3 or 4 seconds slower than him (the other places he made up during pit stops), and Schumacher cheating again. Complete yawnfest.

[Chaparral]

To be honest I dont think anyone should be privilaged to hear radio transmission between team and driver as you only get snipppets not full conversations - but yes it would appear Hamilton is very precious when he's not competitive - s..t happens ace!

[xpensive]

Mark's the man of the moment anyway Chap, not the carribiean. Let's hope it can stay that way.

[Chaparral]

Yeah not sure how I feel about that X - I dont want to jinx the guy as he's had enough of a bad time through his career - hopefully he will win a couple more this year fingers crossed - he's the first Aussie since Sir Jack Brabham to win the Monaco GP since 1959 - yes I'm thrilled for sure and as our last WDC man Alan Jones said tonight "just keep on doing what your doing Mark"

[donskar]

I understand it but I doubt that the team enjoys being told off in public, or that Hamilton be so vocal about his displeasure with the teams decisions.

SPEED TV commentators made some good points, and were very negative toward Hamilton:
1) That sort of exchange must take place behind closed doors. Once the garage door goes up, the team must present a united front. Hamilton is developing the reputation as an immature driver.
2) Every driver must be careful what info he reveals to the oppostion during a race.

IMHO opinion, Hamilton has great abilities: call him "The Boss" when he keeps his mouth shut and the car is OK. When things are not going well, he still does not have the maurity to deal with it. That is when I think of him as "The Loss." A great talent is being partially wasted because he has not reached full emotional maturity.

[ringo]

I know this is not going to be go very well with most Mclaren/Lewis fans, but after the radion incident yesterday, do you think the Lewis Hamilton will see out his contract with Mclaren?

To me the radio incident was a PR disaster for a company like Mclaren and this is clearly a sign of the fustration building up in Lewis since Australia GP where Button won the race.

My guess is that Ron, through Martin, is going to have a big discussion with Lewis over this radio incident and Lewis being strong headed and without a manager, might not in the best position to make the right decision.

He has a personal relationship with his engineers, he can talk to them informally. You never said what the hell amongst your friends before?
What the hell was not even directed at the engineers, it was directed at the task ahead of him. He knows the engineers at the race can do nothing about the brake duct size or the fact that the brakes are overheating.
He was clearly frustrated at the situation and not the team.

The context is more like "what the hell i have to save brakes and race a faster ferrari at the same time!"
not like "it's a shame really", the team didn't setup my car properly, like what Button does most of the time.