myurr wrote:Lets not forget that he is also particularly brutal with his cars over the curbs - even when told there is a problem and he should go easy, he needed to be warned a second time saying it was critical. Equally he has a history of colliding with other drivers when attempting an overtake or defending a position. Not saying that it happens every race or anything like that, but it does happen frequently enough to question his judgement.
Couple this with Vettel's new found arrogance and smugness in his celebrations and attitudes to other drivers when he's been the one making the mistake or acting recklessly, and I'm starting to cultivate a real dislike for the kid.
Webber is certainly no saint, and in another post I spelled out how I have always had a certain dislike for the way he behaves on track when the red mist comes down. In this instance though he was completely innocent, and my newfound support for him will last whilst he is having to battle his own team! The way they have tried to publicly discredit him is atrocious, and it is for that reason I hope he beats Vettel and puts the boy wonder in his place.
It would be nice if you could spare us your repetitive pontifications over perceived driver's attitude with
loaded language (compare bold items) in a thread that isn't about armchair expertise on drivers but about the Red Bull management going-ons.
Sure, you are a McLaren fan but that doesn't excuse your constant bashing of other drivers.
The repetitive go slow command in Spain was related to a broken brake disk and had nothing to do with riding curbs. They told him to use his breaks less which he did to the effect of driving the last five laps without any brakes. It was a brilliant save of points for Sebastian and the team. To criticize that shows your bias.
Criticizing the way drivers celebrate on the podium is bad taste in my view. They come from different cultural back grounds and do different things. In the case of Vettel he has triumphed in the face of much adversity of the engineering side and it is understandable that he feels some grim joy when he eventually came through to reap the fair benefits of his undoubtable speed.
On topic I wonder what will happen to Ciaron Pilbeam, the race engineer who not only failed to relay the warning to Webber that he was going to be passed by Vettel but also advised Webber to use his overtaking button to repel the pass from Vettel. He deliberately screwed Horner and Marko in their management and if they have all their marbles in the right place they ought to punish him for the sabotage.
Webber is just showing some of his talent and maturity and Vettel is showing his lack of maturity and the possibility he isnt the next best thing since sliced bread.
. Webber and Vettel had clear the air talks. Here is the rather odd picture to prove it.
