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Red Bull Racing drivers Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel met with Christian Horner, Adrian Newey and Dr. Marko at the Red Bull Racing factory today in Milton Keynes, UK. It was a positive meeting, which draws a line under the incident that happened on lap 40 of the Turkish Grand Prix. The team is now fully focused on next week’s Canadian Grand Prix.
*Webber is the the Seasoned veteran who has been at RedBull for years, whay should he roll over for the young pup when we frequently hear that Vettel has used Webber's setup? Clearly Vettel still has a lot to learn!andrew wrote:Webber needs to learn that he is the number 2 driver in the team and accept that Vettel correctly gets preference where new parts are concerned.
Bollocks, before the SC was deployed he was nowhere and tooling around in 1.37's while Webber and Hamilton where reeling off 1.35's - talking about throwing your toys out of the pram!andrew wrote:His recovery drive today was excellent.
I think Andrew is living in another parallel universe and watched a different F1 Season to the rest of us - somehow his net connection has freakishly hooked up to our universe and here he is posting on F1T in the wrong Universe!myurr wrote:Strange - I have personally found this year to be much more exciting than last year with more close racing throughout the field.andrew wrote:I would say that all the races this year have been dull, regardless of the winner so no strangness at all.
When Vettel first joined Red Bull Mark had ended up copying Vettel's setup becuase initally it was faster, but you're right Vettel is now copying Mark. I wonder how much more it will take for Mark's side of the garage to stop sharing data with Vettel's side. That's what Alonso ended up doing with Lewis.djos wrote:Get stuffed, Webber is the the Seasoned veteran who has been at RedBull for years, whay should he roll over for the young pup when we frequently hear that Vettel has used Webber's setup? Clearly Vettel still has a lot to learn!andrew wrote:Webber needs to learn that he is the number 2 driver in the team and accept that Vettel correctly gets preference where new parts are concerned.
You're forgetting Webber had a Broken Shoulder and smashed up leg at the start of 2009 - not ideal physical shape for testing and providing accurate feedback. Also iirc the wider front tires of 2009 suited Vettel more than Webber.F1Rocks wrote:When Vettel first joined Red Bull Mark had ended up copying Vettel's setup becuase initally it was faster, but you're right Vettel is now copying Mark. I wonder how much more it will take for Mark's side of the garage to stop sharing data with Vettel's side. That's what Alonso ended up doing with Lewis.djos wrote:Get stuffed, Webber is the the Seasoned veteran who has been at RedBull for years, whay should he roll over for the young pup when we frequently hear that Vettel has used Webber's setup? Clearly Vettel still has a lot to learn!andrew wrote:Webber needs to learn that he is the number 2 driver in the team and accept that Vettel correctly gets preference where new parts are concerned.
http://www.aquiziam.com/rudegestures.htmlThe Forearm Jerk / Fist Your Ass: This rude hand gesture is "super-sized" variation of the "middle finger" or "--- you" sign. The fist is raised and the opposite hand slapped onto the forearm suggesting full sexual penetration. It is often seen as a taunt to fight and not just an insult. A variation is when the middle finger is extended too. This is a broadly American / Portuguese evolution of a rude hand gesture that may have originated in Central Europe. One source claims that it is also called the bras d' honneur, or the arm of honour, which is a euphemism for a gross sexual insult.
Kimi wouldn't sign on to be a number 2 driver. No top driver would, which is yet another reason why Red Bull are shooting themselves in the foot by alienating Webber.marcush. wrote:I bet some guys in paddock will forget about their good behaviour when a seat at RB is available...the question is who would be attractive to RB,apart from kimi?
I don´t see Buemi or Jaime really making it.kubica has already signed and who else could be an option ?
This conveniently overlooks that the vast majority of the problems within Red Bull at the moment are because they are very publicly favouring one driver over the other whilst trying to maintain that they're giving both an equal opportunity. The problems are entirely down to the team management and not so much down to the drivers. Any top driver would be as disgusted as Webber is were they treated in the same way by their team. It really doesn't help that the team seem more concerned about spinning a line, even trying to manufacture issues between team mates at other teams, than sorting out their own issues.Just_a_fan wrote:Both seasons justify Ferrari's approach in the Michael years: produce a fast car, stick two fast drivers in it but make sure that one knows he is supporting the other. This also worked for McLaren to a lesser extent in 2008 - although the MP4-23 wasn't as dominant as the RB is now, or the Ferraris of the early 2000s were.