Lewis did him by .373. That's not even 75% of half a second. Sorry for being pedantic here, but this is a sport where in Hockenheim we saw pole being taken by 0.002, and Jerez 1997 (I think?) where we saw 3 people setting identical times to the nearest thousandth. And you just slowed down Jenson by .127ell66 wrote:Jenson Button: It was an extremely long and tough race, but I was pleased with my overall performance. I think I got the maximum from the car, and while it would have been nicer to have finished ahead of Mark, Sunday's points still definitely keep me in touch
is he kidding? lewis did him by nearly half a second in qually, and pulled away from him easily during the race.
I allways thogh lewis was fast before this season, but iv been very disapointed in jensons speed all year. maximum out of the car? yeak ok jens you keep saying that
3/4 tenths us a very big difference at this level, you should know this. Im merley calling out jensons bullshit comment of getting all the performance out of the car when he clearly hasnt.raymondu999 wrote:Lewis did him by .373. That's not even 75% of half a second. Sorry for being pedantic here, but this is a sport where in Hockenheim we saw pole being taken by 0.002, and Jerez 1997 (I think?) where we saw 3 people setting identical times to the nearest thousandth. And you just slowed down Jenson by .127ell66 wrote:Jenson Button: It was an extremely long and tough race, but I was pleased with my overall performance. I think I got the maximum from the car, and while it would have been nicer to have finished ahead of Mark, Sunday's points still definitely keep me in touch
is he kidding? lewis did him by nearly half a second in qually, and pulled away from him easily during the race.
I allways thogh lewis was fast before this season, but iv been very disapointed in jensons speed all year. maximum out of the car? yeak ok jens you keep saying that
Funny that the momentum seems to come in pairs. Button won 2 of the early flyaways, Then Lewis struck in the middle with Turkey/Canada back to back, Alonso now has 2 races in a row, and Webber clearly had momentum back in Turkey/Monaco.
[wishful thinking]Statistics-wise, the law of averages would indicate that Seb is next [/end wishful thinking]
Can you show me a photo of Hamilton "clearly ahead" of Webber? Posters keep claiming that, but so far I have seen NO proof. But apart from that, most overtakes are made on the inside, going into corners, sometimes drivers leave space and at others they don't. Remember when Alonso went up the inside, was left with no space, and was penalised?lebesset wrote:well , I read what people say here and am amazed
let me present a scenario.....suppose hamilton was trying to overtake webber up the inside and then ran into him putting him out of the race...should hamilton get a penalty for causing an avoidable accident ? clearly in my view
what happened at singapore was just like that , hamilton was going faster , was at least half a car ahead , and webber tried to overtake him on the inside ; why no penalty ...webber was clearly behind going into the corner ...was he not ? the only alternative to trying to overtake hamilton off was tying to punt him off ...is that what people think ? webber had ample time to brake earlier once hamilton was ahead ...look at the replay
personally I am happy webber didn't get a penalty as I would like to see him win the WDC , last year was the first time he ever had a small chance despite the early season advantage of the brawn , this year a good chance ; but that doesn't alter the fact that he shouldn't have got away with this imho
Button got slaughtered. This "his race pace is better than his qualy pace"ell66 wrote:3/4 tenths us a very big difference at this level, you should know this. Im merley calling out jensons bullshit comment of getting all the performance out of the car when he clearly hasnt.raymondu999 wrote:Lewis did him by .373. That's not even 75% of half a second. Sorry for being pedantic here, but this is a sport where in Hockenheim we saw pole being taken by 0.002, and Jerez 1997 (I think?) where we saw 3 people setting identical times to the nearest thousandth. And you just slowed down Jenson by .127ell66 wrote:Jenson Button: It was an extremely long and tough race, but I was pleased with my overall performance. I think I got the maximum from the car, and while it would have been nicer to have finished ahead of Mark, Sunday's points still definitely keep me in touch
is he kidding? lewis did him by nearly half a second in qually, and pulled away from him easily during the race.
I allways thogh lewis was fast before this season, but iv been very disapointed in jensons speed all year. maximum out of the car? yeak ok jens you keep saying that
Funny that the momentum seems to come in pairs. Button won 2 of the early flyaways, Then Lewis struck in the middle with Turkey/Canada back to back, Alonso now has 2 races in a row, and Webber clearly had momentum back in Turkey/Monaco.
[wishful thinking]Statistics-wise, the law of averages would indicate that Seb is next [/end wishful thinking]
Hamilton is flying the Mig... uhh Mp4 25 at mach 3, button is rightfully cruising at mach 2.8The MiG-25's speed gauge was redlined at Mach 2.8, and pilots were instructed not to top Mach 2.5 in order to preserve the engines. Achieving the MiG-25's maximum potential speed of Mach 3.2 would result in the destruction of the engines.
Image shows Hamilton ahead, it also shows the line that Webber took into the corner is non-existant.Poleman wrote:
gilgen wrote:Can you show me a photo of Hamilton "clearly ahead" of Webber? Posters keep claiming that, but so far I have seen NO proof. But apart from that, most overtakes are made on the inside, going into corners, sometimes drivers leave space and at others they don't. Remember when Alonso went up the inside, was left with no space, and was penalised?lebesset wrote:well , I read what people say here and am amazed
let me present a scenario.....suppose hamilton was trying to overtake webber up the inside and then ran into him putting him out of the race...should hamilton get a penalty for causing an avoidable accident ? clearly in my view
what happened at singapore was just like that , hamilton was going faster , was at least half a car ahead , and webber tried to overtake him on the inside ; why no penalty ...webber was clearly behind going into the corner ...was he not ? the only alternative to trying to overtake hamilton off was tying to punt him off ...is that what people think ? webber had ample time to brake earlier once hamilton was ahead ...look at the replay
personally I am happy webber didn't get a penalty as I would like to see him win the WDC , last year was the first time he ever had a small chance despite the early season advantage of the brawn , this year a good chance ; but that doesn't alter the fact that he shouldn't have got away with this imho
I don't agree that this photo shows Hamilton to be ahead.WilliamsF1 wrote:Poleman wrote:
Image shows Hamilton ahead, it also shows the line that Webber took into the corner is non-existant.