Is Hamilton desperate or what?

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gilgen wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote:This is one of the reasons why I like Hamilton and also why I don't understand the accusations of arrogance. He's one of the few drivers who holds his hands up to his errors - hardly a display of arrogance at all.

It's a shame some other drivers aren't as honest...
I wonder why it took Hamilton 10 days to admit his mistake. He allowed Whitmarsh to issue incorrect statements, and also allowed blame to be heaped on Webber. But, I suppose it's better late than never.
Immediately after the race Hamilton said he thought he'd left enough but didn't blame Webber. As for "allowing blame to be heaped on Webber" - talk about hyperbole; who is "heaping blame" on Webber other than a few people in here? Even the, apparently biased, British media haven't exactly been vociferous which is, admittedly, unusual.

Whitmarsh said that he thought Hamilton was unlucky to be clipped from behind and put out of the race - which he was. Considering the crap thrown at Webber by his own team after Turkey (where he absolutely wasn't at fault), I think McLaren were very level in their mutterings about the Singapore incident. I can only imagine the hysterics we'd have had from Ferrari or even Red Bull themselves had it been a role reversal.

I think Hamilton's latest statement is an attempt to draw a line under the incident. It should prevent the media from attempting to stoke up some mythical rivalry between himself and Webber. If so, very smart and a help to both drivers in the coming races.

As for "better late than never" - how long did it take Vettel to admit his mistake in Turkey? Or Webber in Valencia (i.e. admit his mistake in underestimating the backmarker)? Did Schuie ever admit his "error of judgement" in Monaco 2006?

And how long was it before Schuie admitted he was a little "firm" with Rubens? A couple of weeks IIRC and only then because of so much public disgust at the move.
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And it's interesting that even Alonso - hardly Hamilton's biggest fan - stated that neither driver was at fault in Singapore.
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He also said webber should have yielded.
I mean, its not Webber's fault that he doesn't know when he loses a position.
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no driver should give up on a position, do you think your hero would?

give it up its done.

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vall wrote:US GP 2007 - LH: "but I am not any driver!" answering to a note by the interviewer that any other driver keep away of the barriers but LH takes them just 5cm away, or something similar. "any driver" is not the best way to refer to your fellow drivers and shows disrespect and arrogance.
Do you actually remember what he said, or just faultfind for fun? Brundle told him that everyone else kept a couple of inches away from the wall, Lewis answered "I'm not everyone else". Do you honestly find this so arrogant?

As for the "blew Alonso away" remark, I think what he meant was that he surprised Alonso big time. I'm not a native speaker so I could be wrong about this, but I recall having heard "blow away" in such context. Like, shake up. Wasn't that true?

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Hey guys, lets stop all this bitterness, fighting and look on the bright side.

Hamilton managed to crash without the aid of any other driver earlier today. He is surely improving! :lol:

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Gerhard Berger wrote:From the BBC website
Lewis Hamilton says he is desperate to reignite his bid for the 2010 Formula 1 drivers' championship in Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka.

The McLaren driver is one of five men in contention for the title but trails leader Mark Webber by 20 points after crashing out of the last two races.

"I'm doing as much as I can to try and recover," Hamilton, 25, told BBC Sport.

"My plan is not to see how hard my team works and then let them down - and let my family, my friends, or myself down."

The 2008 champion moved top of the standings with victory at the Belgian Grand Prix in August, but he has since experienced a downturn in fortunes.

Hamilton was forced out of the Italian Grand Prix after an opening-lap collision with Felipe Massa as he attempted to pass the Ferrari driver.

Disaster struck again at the Singapore Grand Prix as another overtaking move went wrong, this time Hamilton exiting the race after a coming together with the Red Bull of Webber on lap 36.

The Englishman now finds himself third in the championship on 182 points, with Webber top on 202 points and an in-form Fernando Alonso of Ferrari second on 191.

Hamilton is one point ahead of Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel, while his McLaren team-mate and defending champion Jenson Button is four points further back on 177.

With four races remaining and 25 points for a win, all five drivers remain in the hunt and Hamilton is keen to right the wrongs of Monza and Marina Bay.


I guess that settles it then.
Ok it's done and dusted. Hamilton is desperate. Please end this most ridiculous of all fan-boy wrestling matches. It's almost as pathetic as "I'm supporting Not-Alonso"(strange name for a driver)
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Just_a_fan wrote:And it's interesting that even Alonso - hardly Hamilton's biggest fan - stated that neither driver was at fault in Singapore.
Yes, and I wish some would accept it as something in the past. This argument has cycled around so many times it has to have reached the point where no one who could be convinced is long gone, and the result is one camp doggedly dug in defending their hero regardless of anything.

I went over that crash many times, and one thing I constantly asked myself "if I was "X", would I have done it any different?", and that answer was always "no".

It was just the result of two drivers fighting hard, and coming together.
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gear box penalty for Hamilton. He should be desperate for rain.
and ferrari engine failure.
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DESPERADO

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ringo wrote:gear box penalty for Hamilton. He should be desperate for rain.
and ferrari engine failure.
and renault red bull engine failure and kubica's engine to fail and button to receive secondary team treatment along with 110% steward favored biased support...'then' hamilton should be okay.

i hope they have that same crane ready to put him back on the track if and when he slides off!

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lolzi wrote: I agree, but I think the Button from Brazil 2009 would probably be Lewis' equal or maybe even better.
Of course, I wouldn't mind if Hamilton did the same, but it just wouldn't wow me as much because we're more used to seeing him being quick and aggressive.
The same Jenson that started way ahead of Hamilton and ended 2 places behind in 2009? That Jenson Button? :lol:
Please, Jenson only passed a bunch of rookies, he was not quick. The passes were neat and tidy, but nothing to even compare him to Hamilton.
Jenson couldn't even pass Kobayashi; he had to beg for the position. Then in abudahbi, Kamui whooped Jenson again, outbraking and outdriving him after the long straight.
You should look back at actual events before you blashpeme against the BOSS. :mrgreen:
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you know that Article on hamilton taking the blame is misquoting the guy.
His statement was fragmented with ..... He did not take the blame for making mistakes in singapore, it was Monza he was refering to.
And even if he did, he's that kind of guy; he likes to take the heat for others.

Webber better win this title..
He caused too much trouble not to!

Any how Alonso wins this man... :evil:
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ringo wrote:he likes to take the heat for others.
Jarno Trulli knows that very well indeed :lol:

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timbo wrote:
ringo wrote:he likes to take the heat for others.
Jarno Trulli knows that very well indeed :lol:
Jarno trulli, who's that? :mrgreen:

Jarno was fourth, lewis was third. That's another story though.
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