Spanish GP 2011 - Barcelona

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myurr wrote:Personally I think starting on the primes would be suicide - they have so little grip that off the line he'd lose three or four places if those behind him start on options. If they all start on primes then it could be a smart thing to do, so it's highly dependent on the rest of the field.
True, but the old dog has showed on many occasions since his return that he can still do some bad damage during the first lap.. Haven't been a huge fan of his since the comeback but I'd really enjoy it if he'd shut up a few haters today!
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CHT wrote:There is really nothing much for Vettel to gain by going aggressive on webber at the first corner. And with his speed advantage over Mclaren and Ferrari, I am sure he wont be too worried if LH or FA outrun him to first corner as well.
I think Vettel will actually help Webber down to T1. If Webber doesn´t miss the start obviously.
The truth will come out...

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andartop wrote:
myurr wrote:Personally I think starting on the primes would be suicide - they have so little grip that off the line he'd lose three or four places if those behind him start on options. If they all start on primes then it could be a smart thing to do, so it's highly dependent on the rest of the field.
True, but the old dog has showed on many occasions since his return that he can still do some bad damage during the first lap.. Haven't been a huge fan of his since the comeback but I'd really enjoy it if he'd shut up a few haters today!
To be fair to him the start has been one area where he's been consistently on top form, often making up quite a few places. Let's see what he can do today.

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So how far will the the option tyre carry you at decent in the race is the big question for a decision on starting on new primes and only short stinting them.
The idea is to use the start and top speed advantage to NOT lose any position till the first stops and dive into the pits witth the first of the top six runners or even earlier ..wich depends on where you are released back into the pack.I don´t think many can do long stints on the softs ,so these should be returning in camparable positions when serving their own stops but face the decision if the second set of tyres needs to be the primes when Schumacher has those already out of the way.
so methinks a used set of options would be perfect for the second stint ,shooting for the fresh ones in the third when all are fighting with their prime tyres giving up and theres nothing they can do but serve their time or switching to an additional stop..
So is it possible to go 15laps on primes ,15laps on used options,17laps on new options and do 16more on the remaining softs? you are only holding 3 sets of each specification come start of Q1,right? So Schumacher has one or two sets of used primes,1 or 2 sets of new primes,1or 2 sets of used options and 1or two sets of sticker option tyres...
so if they only used 1 set of options for the Qualyfications he migght as well use this set for the last stint and try to make this as short as possible?

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myurr wrote:As long as we can avoid the finger and the stupid catch phrases, "That's what I'm talking about", then I'll be happy.
We should have something like Golden Comment and You should be the first winner myurr.

Hope that we will see some nice racing without all this plastic and immature gestures.

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Seb got the finger from the Techno Viking

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"That's what i'm talking about !!"

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4 or 5 stop race; this viking made me vomit on my breakfast, thanks!
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Great, so I have it TSN, but for some reason I have the speed guys talking on TSN. Annoying. To make it even worse, it's a window in the screen, and no HD.

EDIT: They fixed the feed. HD back. Stil stuck with SPEED broadcasters.
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DRS working fine.....not :D

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Too much downforce here. When they open the wing, they are immediately on the limiter. Maybe they should get more revs when the DRS is open.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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Massa...?
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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FrukostScones wrote:Massa...?
Old tyres.

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andrew wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:Massa...?
Old tyres.
yeah, but no effort to protect his position it seemed.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

myurr
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Vettel two laps in a row with all 4 tyres outside the track. Very naughty.

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FrukostScones wrote:yeah, but no effort to protect his position it seemed.
Well if he has no grip there is not much else he can do is there?

Better off to put up less of a fight this early in the race and hope that the strategy kicks in later on.
myurr wrote:Vettel two laps in a row with all 4 tyres outside the track. Very naughty.
Just noticed a whole stream of them do this. I wonder if the stewards will look at the rules for this one.