Tony Stewart and Lewis Hamilton to switch cars

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@giblet....You just need to relax a bit.....jeez guy....you way too defensive.....I'm new to the forums here and and have no idea what goes and what doesn't when getting into a debate....let alone one with a mod so for the sake of not been ultimately accused of been a troll I'm not going to chase my point of view any further.... I got banned for having a debate in another forum so hey...I'll err on the side of caution

[beelsebob]

Does the contract include the obligation to crash less than 37 times per race?

Or is that clause waived because of the "media coverage" it brought?

Frankly, Hamilton promoting NASCAR and F1 in USA at this point in time is like Tiger Woods promoting a marriage counselor office.

I fail to imagine how this will change the thinking of NASCAR fans about F1 Drivers being condescending and spoiled snobby brats, but, hey, you know how sincere and useful are PR people.

Well Whitmarsh said he was happy with how hamilton drove and didn't want a change, so I guess it must!

[DaveKillens]

There was no way I was going to miss this TV show. Crappy part is that a storm blew through my satellite dish's signal and I lost some of the show. But it was replayed later in the evening and I finally got to experience it all.

Sure it was a Mobile 1 event, and to those guys, thanks, it was a pure joy to see two great drivers, still in their element, but also doing weird and fun stuff.

There was no pressure of competition, or to brag on who's quickest, or has the fastest hands or largest schlong, it was pure, unadulterated fun away from the usual crap of argument.

And this morning, after long reflection, I became aware that this was something I was missing, and never realized was gone. It was the pure joy of the sport, the blissful enjoyment of watching racing. Just watching the racing, the brave young people showing off and having fun.

Back when I practically had my mailing address as the nearest race track, the numerous friends I acquired at the tracks all had a deep love of motorsport, and it showed. Times have changed, and for whatever reason I have been exposed to just too much hatred and anger, just a lot of negative emotions I hoped wasn't part of motorsport.

Maybe that crap isn't really manifested at the tracks, maybe it's just a result of the internet.

I don't know, but I'd rather go back to my roots, and hang around some small track and watch kids kart rather than spectate a Grand Prix and be exposed to people who somehow forgot the joy of motor racing and would rather argue and defend in the most obnoxious manner their favorite driver.

Just a few days ago I witnessed one of the most amazing races I have ever experienced, one that definitely will be talked about and remembered for a very long time. It was also the career-defining drive for Jenson Button, what he accomplished was truly amazing and great. Yet in the last few days all I have experienced and witnessed was hatred and anger and the almost complete lack of enjoyment and happiness, of the joy of racing.

I'm sure glad this television show aired when it did, to remind me of what's really important, and what's not.

[Giblet]

@giblet....You just need to relax a bit.....jeez guy....you way too defensive.....I'm new to the forums here and and have no idea what goes and what doesn't when getting into a debate....let alone one with a mod so for the sake of not been ultimately accused of been a troll I'm not going to chase my point of view any further.... I got banned for having a debate in another forum so hey...I'll err on the side of caution

Its not defensive, its debate and discussion. So long as you are not personal, in saying things like "relax guy" there is no need to get uppity.

I simply saw some misinformation and chose to comment. You were making it sound like Lewis was doing this for his own fun, and I was clarifying this is his job and this part of job happens to be very fun.

We get into all kinds of debates here. A debate is just a logical exchange of points about opposing ideas, it has nothing to do with the person on the other end.

So cheers, and welcome to the forum I'm usually better at greetings.

[Ciro Pabón]

Go, Canucks!

[Traction]

@giblet....You just need to relax a bit.....jeez guy....you way too defensive.....I'm new to the forums here and and have no idea what goes and what doesn't when getting into a debate....let alone one with a mod so for the sake of not been ultimately accused of been a troll I'm not going to chase my point of view any further.... I got banned for having a debate in another forum so hey...I'll err on the side of caution

Its not defensive, its debate and discussion. So long as you are not personal, in saying things like "relax guy" there is no need to get uppity.

I simply saw some misinformation and chose to comment. You were making it sound like Lewis was doing this for his own fun, and I was clarifying this is his job and this part of job happens to be very fun.

We get into all kinds of debates here. A debate is just a logical exchange of points about opposing ideas, it has nothing to do with the person on the other end.

So cheers, and welcome to the forum I'm usually better at greetings.

Ok...thanks... Nice to 'meet' you.

I think the point I am trying to make is that LH is great driver, no one can dispute that but since he won the championship he seems imo to have lost the focus. Almost as if he has let the fame take over and control his future. It almost seems as if the pressure he is under is making him desperate and sometimes almost paniky in an attempt to win races. On top of it all along comes someone younger in the form of Vettel and absolutely starts ripping it up and is on the verge of been a double WC. LH is allowing all this to affect his behaviour on and off the track. I just think he needs to step back and actually ask himself..WTF am I doing, let me go back to the basics, fall back on the exact same natural ability that won him his first title.

[spinmastermic]

There was no way I was going to miss this TV show. Crappy part is that a storm blew through my satellite dish's signal and I lost some of the show. But it was replayed later in the evening and I finally got to experience it all.

Sure it was a Mobile 1 event, and to those guys, thanks, it was a pure joy to see two great drivers, still in their element, but also doing weird and fun stuff.

There was no pressure of competition, or to brag on who's quickest, or has the fastest hands or largest schlong, it was pure, unadulterated fun away from the usual crap of argument.

And this morning, after long reflection, I became aware that this was something I was missing, and never realized was gone. It was the pure joy of the sport, the blissful enjoyment of watching racing. Just watching the racing, the brave young people showing off and having fun.

Back when I practically had my mailing address as the nearest race track, the numerous friends I acquired at the tracks all had a deep love of motorsport, and it showed. Times have changed, and for whatever reason I have been exposed to just too much hatred and anger, just a lot of negative emotions I hoped wasn't part of motorsport.

Maybe that crap isn't really manifested at the tracks, maybe it's just a result of the internet.

I don't know, but I'd rather go back to my roots, and hang around some small track and watch kids kart rather than spectate a Grand Prix and be exposed to people who somehow forgot the joy of motor racing and would rather argue and defend in the most obnoxious manner their favorite driver.

Just a few days ago I witnessed one of the most amazing races I have ever experienced, one that definitely will be talked about and remembered for a very long time. It was also the career-defining drive for Jenson Button, what he accomplished was truly amazing and great. Yet in the last few days all I have experienced and witnessed was hatred and anger and the almost complete lack of enjoyment and happiness, of the joy of racing.

I'm sure glad this television show aired when it did, to remind me of what's really important, and what's not.

Well put David,this site is getting ridiculous

[andrew]

I propose the following: no new Hamilton threads until the guy finish one race and crash with nobody. What about that?

Best idea I have read in a while!

I suspect a long wait.

[Shrieker]

I propose the following: no new Hamilton threads until the guy finish one race and crash with nobody. What about that?

Fuel the fire, feed the trolls.

Very good on you, very mature.

The reason we are hearing so much about Hamilton in this forum, is not because of his driving, and because he is simply despised to death. When things go wrong on the track for LH, some people here only post to annoy Hamilton's fans, as if they don't have a right to be fans. No objective criticism, no nothing, just trolling.
We've seen lows of other drivers. We've seen Vettel crash into his team mate and then go on to do something similar to Button later on last season. Sure there was a lot of trolling against him too, but nowhere as near as Hamilton's case.

As for the seat swap. IMHO they should've driven a little bit more (or I wanted to see more of it lol). But still, I enjoyed every second of it.

[ecapox]

@Shrieker
The same thing happens to the entire Ferrari team and every driver not named Felipe Massa. It is nauseating. I'd almost like to have some of those threads happen in real life with people physically sitting next to each other. I bet it would be pretty boring. But since this is the internet and everyone is anyonymous, it helps fuel the fire.

I recorded the seat swap on Speed, but for some reason they had it down as 30 minutes and when i went to watch it i saw 1/2 a lap from lewis in the NASCAR and then it stopped. Duh. It probably will be reposted online for those of us that didnt see it.

[beelsebob]

@Shrieker
The same thing happens to the entire Ferrari team and every driver not named Felipe Massa. It is nauseating. I'd almost like to have some of those threads happen in real life with people physically sitting next to each other. I bet it would be pretty boring. But since this is the internet and everyone is anyonymous, it helps fuel the fire.

I recorded the seat swap on Speed, but for some reason they had it down as 30 minutes and when i went to watch it i saw 1/2 a lap from lewis in the NASCAR and then it stopped. Duh. It probably will be reposted online for those of us that didnt see it.

And yet somehow, we don't get endless threads created suggesting that Alonso or Ferrari are terrible drivers and should be banned from F1. Even when Alonso is involved in controversial crashes at grand prix

[Shrieker]

I'd almost like to have some of those threads happen in real life with people physically sitting next to each other. I bet it would be pretty boring. But since this is the internet and everyone is anyonymous, it helps fuel the fire.

%100 agreed. I might get too carried away sometimes too, but I really try not to post anything I wouldn't want to say in person.

[HampusA]

There´s two sides of a coin..
the people who are complete Hammy lovers is just as bad as the haters.
It´s impossible to discuss anything with either of them because they are so biased/unbiased.

[andrew]

There´s two sides of a coin..
the people who are complete Hammy lovers is just as bad as the haters.
It´s impossible to discuss anything with either of them because they are so biased/unbiased.

Truth! =D>

[beelsebob]

There´s two sides of a coin..
the people who are complete Hammy lovers is just as bad as the haters.
It´s impossible to discuss anything with either of them because they are so biased/unbiased.

Then it's perhaps beneficial to not start the threads in the first place