New overtaking rules from FIA

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New overtaking rules from FIA

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if you move off the racing line to defend , you can't move back

not enough , but a start !

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I think its to much. What is the next gonna be?? "The car in front must slow down and hold to the opposite side of the track whenever a car is approaching from behind" ??

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It should be called the "Schumacher Monza" rule. How times have changed, he was once untouchable but now they create special rules to keep him in his place.

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Yeah, not being able to move back will make it worse to watch. Might as well move over and let the cars pass.
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richard_leeds wrote:It should be called the "Schumacher Monza" rule. How times have changed, he was once untouchable but now they create special rules to keep him in his place.
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I think it's fine as long as everyone plays by the same rules. This just means that you have to consider not just your own line but the line of the driver chasing. It makes you be more strategic as opposed to just laying down a block. Besides, now that it's a rule, there's no more ambiguity about what driver can or can't do to defend his position.
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Ridiculous and will make a bore fest
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It will make it easier for the stewards of the meeting. This rule was always there as a non written rule. It is good that it is now set into words and written down. Drivers are still allowed to defend but they may leave the racing line only once between corners and may not come back on the line before they reach the apex of the next corner. I approve the rule change. There should be fewer accidents due to this rule.
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Since when was this a rule? In karting you can defend by moving across off your line once, then returning to your normal line, if you dont return to your normal line, you get a worse exit out of the corner meaning an overtake is undefendable, this rule shouldnt be added in IMO
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well... have a deeper entry line, make the other car brake harder and that's it... :P
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Has anyone seen the exact wording of the rule? I am a bit worried about where exactly does this "racing line" lay.
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Goran2812 wrote:well... have a deeper entry line, make the other car brake harder and that's it... :P
Its not that simple though, cos the guy defending will end up loosing speed out of the corner (I race karts) and having to basically give up the place on the next straight/ corner, which is ridiculous, so basically kiss goodbye to battles, and kiss goodbye to quality defending, this is another gimmic which will allow the following person to breeze past very quickly, not what racing is about... The art of racing is slowly being destroyed
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lebesset wrote:if you move off the racing line to defend , you can't move back

not enough , but a start !

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/12/07/f ... ules-2012/

Without reading that link, that's the similar to what we do in Australia and it works well.
You're only allowed one blocking move, no more, between corners.

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Terrible rule. I understand not letting the drivers go back and forth and defend freely, that could cause a bad accident. Essentially telling drivers to play dead though? I doubt it will make a difference anyways. If a Driver A stays in the middle of the track and doesn't move, Driver B will either have to smash into him on the inside of the corner, or run wide into the grass going on the outside.
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The rule is not terrible.
In fact it doesn't even sound like it's new. It's basically a clarification on what was already implied by the previous rules.
I was saying this all the time, and i was thought to be a fan boy for making up stuff to suit a specific driver.
Now drivers have think more when they defend. Now they have to make their car wide by choosing a single line.
That is what true defending is about. Check Hamilton defending Vettel in Germany.
Or defending Webber in Korea.

Shumacher's moves are cheap and require no real skill to pull off.

Defending is not over guys, it just got a little bit more harder.

But fret not. I don't think overtaking is going to be much easier with this rule.
The attacker still has to get pass and be in a position to enter and exit the upcoming turn faster than the defender.

In fact i don't think it will change the racing much. Remember most passess nowadays are with big speed differentials, meaning they happen on the straights long before the braking zone. It is only in a case like shumacher/hamilton where overtaking is being attempted in the braking zone.
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