When I first saw the proposed layout I wasn't sure what the signature feature of the circuit would be, other than there being some interesting elements borrowed from other circuits. But now that things are shaping up I can see that turn-one will likely be the circuit's signature feature. It's gonna make for one helluva short braking zone. Would also be cool if the DRS zone were on the front straight. But that back straight might be too obvious for the planners.thearmofbarlow wrote:Turn 1 is so damned awesome.
Then there are some Friends (sometimes they forget) qustioning the legality. OMG!Transportation
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A limited number of pre-paid parking permits—or the Circuit of The Americas (COTA) shuttle—will be the only way to access the COTA area during the 2012 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™. There will be no cash parking at the venue, and roads leading into CoTA will be restricted to vehicles displaying assigned parking or residential permits..
The recommended transportation to COTA is by the official shuttle bus network operated by COTA in partnership with the City of Austin, Travis County and Capital Metro. Check here soon for details on where to pick up the shuttle throughout the greater Austin area.
Parking permits may be purchased with your ticket purchase on a first-come, first-served basis. Please call (512) 301-6600 for ticket and parking information or purchase online here starting in June 2012.
If you will have an on-site parking permit, we recommend obtaining a TxTag (toll tag) for your vehicle prior to the event. This will ensure easy access to and from the COTA facility along Toll Road SH 130. You can sign up your vehicle here: http://www.txtag.org/
•Limousines (or any chauffeured vehicle) will be required to have proper licensing in order to operate in greater Austin. Please contact Marcy Cardona (administrative specialist) or call (512) 974-1551 for the City’s requirements. Properly licensed limos will require the proper parking placard to enter CoTA and must follow the parking instructions on the back of that placard to gain access. Limo operators can purchase their parking placard from COTA, or their client may have already purchased the parking placard. Please confer with your client.
•Taxi cabs will be required to have proper licensing in order to operate in greater Austin. Please contact Marcy Cardona or call (512) 974-1551 for the City’s requirements. Properly licensed taxis will then require the proper parking placard to enter COTA and must follow the parking instructions on the back of that placard in order to gain access. Taxi cabs must only enter the taxi cab lot in order to unload or load. This will be strictly enforced.
•Parking directions will be supplied with your parking permit and it is extremely important that these directions be followed! Not following instructions will mean your access into CoTA will be challenged.
•Parking for Recreational Vehicles will require a pre-paid permit and will also be sold on first-come, first-served basis. Check back here for additional details starting in June 2012.
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Friends of Formula 1 Austin Texas So people living or staying the area will have to either buy a parking pass they don't need and then drive through the traffic, or drive to the nearest shuttle parking area & ride back to the track on a shuttle, then reverse the process afterward. Either "option" is patently ludicrous. Is it even legal?
Nope. They were going to do passes, and the residents wanted them. Problem is, they were only going to allow 2 per household where many households have more than 2 drivers needing to go places daily. Residents wanted more, and voiced that need, but COTA didn't want to allow more than 2. Don't really understand why. It's not like there are a lot of people living out there, and Indy allows residents as many parking passes as they like and encourages yard-parking. So instead they prohibited access by foot or by bike.richard_leeds wrote:Surely residents get passes for free so they can have access to their home even when the roads are closed to the everyone else? They'll be able to zoom down the VIP lanes.
We know a lot of people who work with, in, or around COTA in varying capacities. It's hard to keep secrets like those in a community that size. We keep our eyes & ears open, and we have a lot of them!Hairy Guy, where did the one suite rather than 14 info come from. Thanks man. Keep pushing.
Good post.sknguy wrote:When I first saw the proposed layout I wasn't sure what the signature feature of the circuit would be, other than there being some interesting elements borrowed from other circuits. But now that things are shaping up I can see that turn-one will likely be the circuit's signature feature. It's gonna make for one helluva short braking zone. Would also be cool if the DRS zone were on the front straight. But that back straight might be too obvious for the planners.thearmofbarlow wrote:Turn 1 is so damned awesome.
Not sure what to think about the T10 kink though. I'm kinda partial to a sweeper being there. But that might provide too much of an advantage for cars with better top speed once they drag race down the back straight I suppose. I would think that one kilometer should be enough to overtake without DRS there. But if they do simulations, calculations or guesstimations it might prove otherwise. Either way, it should make for some interesting jostling through the complex after that straight.
It's an interesting circuit that's probably going to give the strategists some headaches. One is really going to have to know their car's strengths and which tires will work best. But at season's end and they should have things sussed out with their cars. It might not look like it but I think this is a very well balanced circuit. Knowing Tilke he's probably got some interesting cambers here and there too.
EDIT: I just had another thought. I love the uncertainty that the wear of the Pirellis have brought. But really their marbling is beginning to annoy me a bit. The marbles seem to be narrowing the overtaking zones at some circuits and is actually creating a bit of a hazard for the drivers. It looks like this should be about a 58-60ish lap race and with the balance that track seems to have I think that should make it interesting enough without the marbles.
Be fast! we are all sitting on needlesWe know a lot of people who work with, in, or around COTA in varying capacities. It's hard to keep secrets like those in a community that size. We keep our eyes & ears open, and we have a lot of them!Hairy Guy, where did the one suite rather than 14 info come from. Thanks man. Keep pushing.
That's wrong. Unless an announcement has been made otherwise, residents do get free traffic passes. HS is conflating those with parking passes for the track itself.hairy_scotsman wrote:Nope.richard_leeds wrote:Surely residents get passes for free so they can have access to their home even when the roads are closed to the everyone else? They'll be able to zoom down the VIP lanes.
No. They won't.richard_leeds wrote:HS - as Pup said I think my question has got mixed up.
Lets get this straight... People living near the track will get two passes for free to go about their normal business?
So you think it's fine that people living literally right next to the track will likely have to drive 15-25 miles through all the race congestion just to reach a park & ride lot, then wait in line to get on a bus, then come 15-25 miles back to the track they could have walked to in the first place (reversing this later in the day)?Your point is that if you live near the track and want to attend, you still have to go out a park and ride, then come into the track on official transport? I can see why that is needed else there would be a mockery of the traffic plan.
...and there has been another meeting since then, where COTA reps Loignon and Sweazy stated that there would be no traffic passes.Pup wrote:There was one meeting where CotA proposed that each resident get two traffic passes, but some of those at the meeting requested more. CotA said that they'd consider it.
I don't think anyone has suggested giving them both unlimited traffic passes and pedestrian access. Besides, the traffic passes are no longer in play. They won't be needed. The simplest solution is just to allow residents & their guests access to the track without having to buy a parking pass and fight traffic in their cars to go 1 mile or take hours to drive and ride where they can walk in minutes.If CotA encouraged nearby residents to provide parking by allowing unlimited traffic passes and pedestrian access, then they would risk flooding the reserved lanes causing all sorts of problems with track and emergency access. It would be absolutely idiotic.
Richard wanted to know if the residents had free access to their homes. They do, whether it's by individual passes or by any other means.hairy_scotsman wrote:It's not wrong. It's exactly right...
Either they have a limited number of passes and pedestrian access, or they have no pedestrian access. If you have both, you've got problems. There are a lot of people out there with big lots, and I can see one or two of them trying to park hundreds if not thousands of cars. That would be a disaster.hairy_scotsman wrote:I don't think anyone has suggested giving them both unlimited traffic passes and pedestrian access.