Spanish GP 2012 - Barcelona

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Nando wrote:teacher´s favorite? Must be the most idiotic comment i have ever read here.
I've been lurking for months and I can easily recall 3-4 better ones in that time.

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Nando wrote:If it turns out Hamilton will lose his position then if i was Hamilton i would slap Martin right across the face.

It´s been more then one occasion where they have totally raped him of any chances to win a race. It´s starting to get ridiculous.
Yep, McLaren really do seem to be (unintentionally) buggering their drivers right now.

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Given his level of dominance it would be particularly harsh if they penalised the driver for the teams mistake. His advantage was worth about 20kg of fuel, which is a lot! I hope they let him off with a warning that if it happens again then he'll get a penalty. It's clear he didn't actually get an advantage given his pace in the other sessions.

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Redragon
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I don't think is Mclaren blame. Both new how low of fuel that car was to take pole.
They took the risk and both in my opinion should be penalised.
If not in near future the pole fight would mean, cross the line and stop the car, we will find a technical issue

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myurr wrote:Given his level of dominance it would be particularly harsh if they penalised the driver for the teams mistake. His advantage was worth about 20kg of fuel, which is a lot! I hope they let him off with a warning that if it happens again then he'll get a penalty. It's clear he didn't actually get an advantage given his pace in the other sessions.
The issue is that in Canada he got told "If it happens again then you'll get a penalty."

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myurr wrote:Given his level of dominance it would be particularly harsh if they penalised the driver for the teams mistake. His advantage was worth about 20kg of fuel, which is a lot! I hope they let him off with a warning that if it happens again then he'll get a penalty. It's clear he didn't actually get an advantage given his pace in the other sessions.
That's what happened in Canada 2010; now it's the second time. How many "warnings" does he need to understand the rule?

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andreag wrote:
myurr wrote:Given his level of dominance it would be particularly harsh if they penalised the driver for the teams mistake. His advantage was worth about 20kg of fuel, which is a lot! I hope they let him off with a warning that if it happens again then he'll get a penalty. It's clear he didn't actually get an advantage given his pace in the other sessions.
That's what happened in Canada 2010; now it's the second time. How many "warnings" does he need to understand the rule?
Well, it's hardly him that needs to understand it is it – it's not like he personally fuels the car, or even dictates how much must go in.

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Do Maldonado and Alonso have an extra set of tyres for the race? Or were they used in Q2. Wanting to know cause I missed Q2 :?
"We have a new toy" - Fernando Alonso.

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beelsebob wrote:
andreag wrote:
myurr wrote:Given his level of dominance it would be particularly harsh if they penalised the driver for the teams mistake. His advantage was worth about 20kg of fuel, which is a lot! I hope they let him off with a warning that if it happens again then he'll get a penalty. It's clear he didn't actually get an advantage given his pace in the other sessions.
That's what happened in Canada 2010; now it's the second time. How many "warnings" does he need to understand the rule?
Well, it's hardly him that needs to understand it is it – it's not like he personally fuels the car, or even dictates how much must go in.
But he knows situation, I don't think he is not aware.

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Teechnical wrote:Do Maldonado and Alonso have an extra set of tyres for the race? Or were they used in Q2. Wanting to know cause I missed Q2 :?
Nope – Button commented after Q2 that he didn't even have the advantage of fresh tyres – only Hamilton had been able to not use all his tyres in Q2 of anyone.

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Redragon wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Well, it's hardly him that needs to understand it is it – it's not like he personally fuels the car, or even dictates how much must go in.
But he knows situation, I don't think he is not aware.
You think the driver knows absolutely everything about exact fuel quantities going into the car, and how much a lap takes, and ...? You honestly think hamilton would have said take extra fuel out when he was dominating the field? Madness.

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The question really is, "whether 0.3L of fuel would have been sufficient to bring him back to pits?". If yes, then the stewards might still let them go I guess.

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clipsy1H
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Maldonado remain a kamikaze guy!! let's hope tomorrow he have a clean race and maybe top3-5.

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Its not like him or the team would knowingly not put enough fuel, it's just not worth the risk for the tiny benefit another kilo of fuel would make.

They been running on the track for two days now so they know exactly how much fuel is needed for an out lap, flying lap & in lap. It sounds like an genuine error to me, if that's the case they need to prove it, either bad calculation of faulty fuel rig.

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beelsebob wrote:
Redragon wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Well, it's hardly him that needs to understand it is it – it's not like he personally fuels the car, or even dictates how much must go in.
But he knows situation, I don't think he is not aware.
You think the driver knows absolutely everything about exact fuel quantities going into the car, and how much a lap takes, and ...? You honestly think hamilton would have said take extra fuel out when he was dominating the field? Madness.
I am not saying he knew exactly the quantity but he probably knew they were running low of fuel to secure pole and take the risk of having enough fuel at the end. Sometimes works sometimes not. And this one is the second it happen.