Will FIA end up requiring silencers?

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I'm glad im not the only one who must have been thinking, whilst watching the monaco gp... "God i wish that was me stood in that tunnel, just image the sound!

Ah, to me engine sounds are like good photos, some just make stop and go WOW, just like some music, just imagine how much your ears love the fact that you get a full range of pure sound in its natural form...
And of course, ear plugs help, but they only stop certain frequencies.

The interesting thing about sound is, unless you are there, right next to the source, it will never be the same. Yes lets go out and buy some nice £40,000NAD audio equipment and say its better. Its not, there is no sound on the planet that is created in stereo, let alone 5:1, its all as a mono source.

Shame the OP was put off by the sound.

Can i also add, that on the opening lap in barcalona, as Alonso came round the 3rd or 4th turn, the noise of the crowd drowned out the roaring pack of the entire F1 grid... that made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up... just imagine how Alonso felt!

Ah i love F1!.... and loud noises :lol:

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Belatti wrote:
elFranZ wrote: (V12's sounded way better to me, but never got one in front, so can't really judge).
You just cant imagine, you have to live it!

A screaming V12 with earplugs its a capital sin

Hi.
We had a DTM race held in Helsinki, Finland. Year was 1996. It was held in an industrial urban street circuit.
Anyway. There was a peaking moment when Nicola Larini drove a Ferrari F1 car a couple of show laps.
The car was the mighty 1994 version. 3,5l V12.
Only the startup sound was enough to break teeth.
Sound when it drove the laps, can't be described. You could hear all the shifts
and the thundering acceleration sound from very far away. Almost scary.
And when it drove before my eyes.......imagine.
I went to see a real F1 race, Spa/99.
Sound was amazing but felt that some magic was not there anymore(even with high revs).
V12:s will never return and that is the sad part.

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For one, as was alluded to earlier, insanely loud is a Top Fuel car... by virtue of the fact they have TEN TIMES more output power.

Second, if it's uncomfortably loud put in some ear protection.

Third, it does get less fun and a bit played out after a while. Trust me. If you're in a garage all day with 800 hp V8's firing up next to you, you put your headset on and let it be toned down a bit. If you're regularly around motorsport either as an employee or fanatic, you're out of your mind if you don't have ear protection. This all really goes into point 2 I suppose.

Silencers though? No. Why change a technical regulation when you can just put a cheap plug in your ear? Or alternatively if we want to go further down the road of smaller "carbon footprint," less air pollution, less noise pollution... limit F1 to a 150 hp formula. That fits all those requirements.
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I feel for the OP because he got caught between harsh reality and the pretty picture the television portarys.

It's just like sex, you can watch porn until your eyes bleed, but it doesn't properly prepare you for the first time.

Racing cars are LOUD, that's one of their prime appeals. And Formula One cars aren't the only ones that can make you cry in pain. I've stood behind Can Am cars while exiting the pits, the noise and vibration in your gut can give you diahhrea. I've been to NASCAR races, imagine 500 laps in this bowl, 43 cars.

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But as one poster stated, the sound of a V-12 Ferrari is much more than noise, it's heaven being ripped open by maniac angels.
Racing should be decided on the track, not the court room.

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I was stood behind the Renault R31 last year at the Renault Race weekend when they fired it up and revved it 'till it was shaking on the stands, I was literally two feet away from it, was awesome.


On track there is nothing like them, the feeling of your body being vibrated and the smell of fuel as they go past. If you don't like that you can't be a formula 1 fan!

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I was at the british gp this year, and I dont think silencers should be brought in, I first of all didnt have ear protection on, and heard the scream of the engines without the ear protection, and I can say, the sound is amazing, loud, shakes the stands, it is really part of the atmosphere, after listening without earplugs for a while I then wore earplugs, and it was still good, you can hear the engines clearly, but without it causing any discomfort, I think, when you buy f1 tickets, you should expect it to be loud, if you didnt, then you have probably never read up on an f1 car or f1, simple solution:

if you dont like the noise, wear ear protection, or if not, dont go to watch it! :D
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The sound, unfortunately, is already a lot less loud than last year. Don't ask me why but it is significantly less :(

Last year it hurt my ears, this year, no problem whatsoever.
"There is a credit card with the Ferrari logo, issued by Santander, which gives the scuderia a % of purchases made with the card...

I would guess that such a serious amount of money would allow them to ignore the constant complains of a car that was nowhere near as bad as their #1 driver tried to sell throughout the season.

Heck, a car on which Massa finishes in the podium or has to lift so that his teammate finishes ahead (As we saw often in the final races of the year) is, by no means, a "bad" car."

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jdlive wrote:The sound, unfortunately, is already a lot less loud than last year. Don't ask me why but it is significantly less :(

Last year it hurt my ears, this year, no problem whatsoever.

maybe its just you going deaf and the cars are the same :)

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allstaruk08 wrote:
jdlive wrote:The sound, unfortunately, is already a lot less loud than last year. Don't ask me why but it is significantly less :(

Last year it hurt my ears, this year, no problem whatsoever.

maybe its just you going deaf and the cars are the same :)
Haha no :D

Both the cars of 2011 as well as the RB7 I heard 3 months ago (World Series at Spa) were significantly louder than what I've heard this year at the Spa GP on Friday and Saturday so far. My brother and dad confirmed they weren't that loud as well.
"There is a credit card with the Ferrari logo, issued by Santander, which gives the scuderia a % of purchases made with the card...

I would guess that such a serious amount of money would allow them to ignore the constant complains of a car that was nowhere near as bad as their #1 driver tried to sell throughout the season.

Heck, a car on which Massa finishes in the podium or has to lift so that his teammate finishes ahead (As we saw often in the final races of the year) is, by no means, a "bad" car."

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If FIA puts silencers on F1 cars I swear I wont watch, attend, read about or any other related silenced F1 thing ever again.
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I wont like silencers fitted on F1 cars.
However, I see the noise simply as wasted energy.

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jdlive wrote:
allstaruk08 wrote:
jdlive wrote:The sound, unfortunately, is already a lot less loud than last year. Don't ask me why but it is significantly less :(

Last year it hurt my ears, this year, no problem whatsoever.

maybe its just you going deaf and the cars are the same :)
Haha no :D

Both the cars of 2011 as well as the RB7 I heard 3 months ago (World Series at Spa) were significantly louder than what I've heard this year at the Spa GP on Friday and Saturday so far. My brother and dad confirmed they weren't that loud as well.
Maybe 2011 cars were louder because of the blown diffusers?

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Much of the lower level local racing is “noise” limited. It’s unnatural.

In truth my hearing is compromised, particularly my left ear in that most of the cars I raced had left side exhaust. But no big deal, I call still appreciate an engine at song by the vibrations in my abdominal cavity.

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Belatti wrote:If FIA puts silencers on F1 cars I swear I wont watch, attend, read about or any other related silenced F1 thing ever again.
That would be "it" for me as well. Take away the noise and the (real life) attraction is 50+% gone
"There is a credit card with the Ferrari logo, issued by Santander, which gives the scuderia a % of purchases made with the card...

I would guess that such a serious amount of money would allow them to ignore the constant complains of a car that was nowhere near as bad as their #1 driver tried to sell throughout the season.

Heck, a car on which Massa finishes in the podium or has to lift so that his teammate finishes ahead (As we saw often in the final races of the year) is, by no means, a "bad" car."

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Lurk wrote:
jdlive wrote: Maybe 2011 cars were louder because of the blown diffusers?
The blown diffusers only caused the cracking sounds, the bam bam explosions right? Unless they also made the overall sound louder, I don't think so. But I really don't know, all I know is, it was significantly less loud this year than it was in the previous year.
"There is a credit card with the Ferrari logo, issued by Santander, which gives the scuderia a % of purchases made with the card...

I would guess that such a serious amount of money would allow them to ignore the constant complains of a car that was nowhere near as bad as their #1 driver tried to sell throughout the season.

Heck, a car on which Massa finishes in the podium or has to lift so that his teammate finishes ahead (As we saw often in the final races of the year) is, by no means, a "bad" car."