Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[diego1960]

Αnd EJ said something about an announcement about MSC's future? I can't find any news though anywhere.

[marcush.]

The DAI media statements about Schumacher are sparse but directed towards an investigation if there was possibly a car issue ..

[Richard]

The discussion of Shcmuacher's record at Benetton now has its own thread. Not only were they off topic but there is a wiff of fanboy about those posts.

Please keep this thread on topic, its abut the Merc AMG F1 team in 2012, not knitwear in 1994.

[Adamski]

It is definitely better suited in the silly season topic but it has a big affect on the team's driver line-up in next year:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102877

So it looks like Schumacher again needs to retire because of his team doesn't want him. What a real drama it would be.

Schumi you don't have to wait and see that a little silly boy make a decision about your future. If Hamilton thinks he need to go than Michael you have to go to McLaren! That would be a very-very interesting 2013 season.

[snoop1050]

I think its time to leave when you have more technical DNF's in half a season than your teammate has had in 3 years.
Only a horses head placed in your bed gives a more subtle message.

I don't know who this "top" driver is but I doubt it's going to be hamilton

vettel , alonso and hamilton would be fools to leave the teams there currently in at this time regardless of whatever brawn is promising them , no doubt the same promises he gave to schumacher to lure him out of retirement that never came to fruition

[clipsy1H]

It is definitely better suited in the silly season topic but it has a big affect on the team's driver line-up in next year:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102877

So it looks like Schumacher again needs to retire because of his team doesn't want him. What a real drama it would be.

Schumi you don't have to wait and see that a little silly boy make a decision about your future. If Hamilton thinks he need to go than Michael you have to go to McLaren! That would be a very-very interesting 2013 season.

McLaren doesn't need a old guy who ruin races. They need someone young and hungry for victories. (Di Resta)

About Mercedes Team.... probably the decision will be public in Japan. And maybe if Michael wants to continue he should accept Sauber or Force India.(but i don't think so... a guy like him with huge impact can't go to a no-name team)
It's sad to watch a legend like him kicked out when he could announce his retirement earlier in this season

[diego1960]

diResta is still mentioned as a big talent. Oh God...

As for MSC, he is driving beautifully, probably the best year since his comeback and 2 driver errors/retirements in 14 races can't ruin that no matter how hard you try. He is a valuable asset to every team and Merc should keep him at least for one year. Nico is the one who is lacking in both qualifying and race performance in 2012, too bad that in the beginning of the year MSC retired 3 times in 4 races due to mechanical errors when the car was competitive and points dont reflect that. No, he must stay and correct it, with a competitive car victories are not out of reach for both drivers. There is still time.

[FoxHound]

So it looks like Schumacher again needs to retire because of his team doesn't want him. What a real drama it would be.

How do you interpret that the team does not want him?

Did you read the Autosport interview?

Brawn said: "It's still under discussion, I'm afraid. I can't comment very much on that, but Michael's been a huge asset to the team, he's really taken us forward."I do think Michael contributes an awful lot, so I think the decision for Michael to stay or not continue is a difficult one. Obviously he's very involved in that decision, and discussions are ongoing at the moment

Schumacher is still very much part of Mercedes plans. He brings good performances and attracts sponsors which contribute to the pushing the team forward.
I fail to see how, where, and why Mercedes AMG have said they do not want him, or have even intimated as much.

[snoop1050]

i dont see the point of replacing schumacher with a di resta or some other driver about as entertaining as a pitlane box...
mercedes need a big name who has alot of fans because its blatantly obvious mercedes doesnt have any hardcore fans of its own on various forums look how little interest rosberg attracts and another driver like di resta cant be a very attractive team.

most the people that post in the mercedes threads or the schumahcher vs rosberg compparison threads are either schumacher fans or schumacher haters and noone can really deny that.

to me its pretty obvious mercedes need to replace schumacher with another big name that attracts sponsor attention and fans.

without a big name driver mercedes are just another mid field team that cant be very attractive to sponsors or seen as a good investment by the daimler shareholders.

[AosudiF1]

I think its time to leave when you have more technical DNF's in half a season than your teammate has had in 3 years.
Only a horses head placed in your bed gives a more subtle message.

I agree with this statement. I think Mercedes never thought Schumi would have so much patience.

I really hate seeing Schumi's future depending on someone else's decision (and I have to say, I don't specially like the fact that is Hamilton, on top of it).

I see that Schumi made a bet for Mercedes, trying to genuinely give something back after they started him on F1, and he already did. His name, and not Rosberg's kept the team on the spotlight, after three very disappointing seasons, and the marketing value alone, with that Mercedes SLS AMG advertisement is worth his salary altogether.

Schumi can take this chapter and close it with an ease of mind. But sporting-wise, it was very bad for him. If I can become a "fanboy" for a second, I would love to see him drive a Ferrari next year, win a couple of races, or at least having some decent results, and maybe help Alonso win another championship (let's be honest, I don't think Schumi would be number one there), and end the second part of his career on a high.

At this moment, I think he will just retire, and it is probably the smart thing to do. I really don't see him going to any other team, with the "fanboy" exception of Ferrari, maybe. The secrecy around his departure is probably just related to avoiding hurting Mercedes' negotiation base with Hamilton (if it was already around that he was leaving, Hamilton could negotiate much tougher).

[zyphro]

McLaren doesn't need a old guy who ruin races.

Instead of making NONSENSICAL claims, back up these stupid comments with facts you moron. It's becoming very tiresome to read. Are you sure you're not a troll, you seem to be far from a realistic MSC fan. "ruin" , only thing he ruined was the troll party this season by consistently showing Nico up in both qualifying and the race.

[zyphro]

So it looks like Schumacher again needs to retire because of his team doesn't want him. What a real drama it would be.

How do you interpret that the team does not want him?

Did you read the Autosport interview?

Brawn said: "It's still under discussion, I'm afraid. I can't comment very much on that, but Michael's been a huge asset to the team, he's really taken us forward."I do think Michael contributes an awful lot, so I think the decision for Michael to stay or not continue is a difficult one. Obviously he's very involved in that decision, and discussions are ongoing at the moment

Schumacher is still very much part of Mercedes plans. He brings good performances and attracts sponsors which contribute to the pushing the team forward.
I fail to see how, where, and why Mercedes AMG have said they do not want him, or have even intimated as much.

I fail to see a case that allows MGP to have a reason to kick him out - they ruined his season, by not being able to provide a reliable car.

[zyphro]

without a big name driver mercedes are just another mid field team that cant be very attractive to sponsors or seen as a good investment by the daimler shareholders.

This.

[Chrisaix]

So it looks like Schumacher again needs to retire because of his team doesn't want him. What a real drama it would be.

How do you interpret that the team does not want him?

Did you read the Autosport interview?

Brawn said: "It's still under discussion, I'm afraid. I can't comment very much on that, but Michael's been a huge asset to the team, he's really taken us forward."I do think Michael contributes an awful lot, so I think the decision for Michael to stay or not continue is a difficult one. Obviously he's very involved in that decision, and discussions are ongoing at the moment

Schumacher is still very much part of Mercedes plans. He brings good performances and attracts sponsors which contribute to the pushing the team forward.
I fail to see how, where, and why Mercedes AMG have said they do not want him, or have even intimated as much.

I fail to see a case that allows MGP to have a reason to kick him out - they ruined his season, by not being able to provide a reliable car.

+1 there's no reason for merc to kick michael out just beacuse of the result in singapore, you can count hungary as another mistake. But where was rosberg the last 3-4 races when the car was terrible? Michael was qualifying in the top 3 in the wet and scoring points for the team. Michael's patience in the team is unparalleled. I cant see him saying its hard for him to maintain motivation for such a team with very little progress like rossi said in ducati. Schumi deserves to race next year.

[marcush.]

I´m amazed how the british media think thy can write Schumacher out of his MGP drive.
He has survived a lot worse and has seen this in his Ferari years every time when the results did not come .

MGP has zero value without him ..make no bones about it ..how many pages are written because of him in this thread and how many about Rosberg..the team has really profited much more from having Schumacher than he has .
H deserved to get what was advertised but the product is definetely second rate at best.