2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
siskue2005
70
Joined: 11 May 2007, 21:50

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

banibhusan wrote:What I don't understand is why FIA might impose the parc ferme rule. The parc ferme rule applies to all the cars after qualifying till the race starts. I understand they are allowed to change a part with an exact similar replacement, but would they be allowed to change a whole gearbox(same gear ratios off course) no matter what the problem is? If not then the parc ferme rule will be applied by default and he has to start from the pit lane. Ferrai wouldn't mind that either I guess!! #-o
only if it is damaged or when they can prove it is about to fail

that is why Scrabs is suggesting, if they do it without any reason they will be deemed as breaking the parc f rule and hnce start from the pit lane

User avatar
amouzouris
105
Joined: 14 Feb 2011, 20:21

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

siskue2005 wrote:
stefan_ wrote:Hold on people, nothing happened. Yet.
Official quote from Ferrari re potential Massa gearbox penalty: "We are considering this option"
https://twitter.com/tedkravitz
you know why don't you? it will promote alonso to 7th..and on the clean (rubbered in) side of the track!

beelsebob
beelsebob
85
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 15:49
Location: Cupertino, California

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

amouzouris wrote:
siskue2005 wrote:
stefan_ wrote:Hold on people, nothing happened. Yet.
Official quote from Ferrari re potential Massa gearbox penalty: "We are considering this option"
https://twitter.com/tedkravitz
you know why don't you? it will promote alonso to 7th..and on the clean (rubbered in) side of the track!
Wow, a little late to the party are we?

User avatar
godlameroso
309
Joined: 16 Jan 2010, 21:27
Location: Miami FL

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

I haven't seen anything as far as long runs without DRS are concerned, also it is a bit warmer than it has been in the last two days. I do believe that some teams are getting up to 1.75 seconds worth of DRS advantage compared to a normal race setup. The reason being that a lot of this track depends on the exit speed of the turns particularly in sector 3 and the start of sector two. With DRS open you can carry up to 15 kph more through 16-18 alone that's like two tenths in that corner alone. This is also true coming off turn one and through 5.
Saishū kōnā

User avatar
siskue2005
70
Joined: 11 May 2007, 21:50

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

beelsebob wrote:
amouzouris wrote:
siskue2005 wrote: Official quote from Ferrari re potential Massa gearbox penalty: "We are considering this option"
https://twitter.com/tedkravitz
you know why don't you? it will promote alonso to 7th..and on the clean (rubbered in) side of the track!
Wow, a little late to the party are we?
some people have life outside this f1tech forum 8)

beelsebob
beelsebob
85
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 15:49
Location: Cupertino, California

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

siskue2005 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
amouzouris wrote:you know why don't you? it will promote alonso to 7th..and on the clean (rubbered in) side of the track!
Wow, a little late to the party are we?
some people have life outside this f1tech forum 8)
Yep, and when we arrive, we go and read the back posts, and find out what's going on ;)

User avatar
amouzouris
105
Joined: 14 Feb 2011, 20:21

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

ooops! my bad! :P got too excited without reading the previous posts!

User avatar
siskue2005
70
Joined: 11 May 2007, 21:50

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

if this is about Alonso getting to clean side, why dont they change his Gearbox and start from 13th? 8)

adam2003
adam2003
-1
Joined: 23 Aug 2012, 11:53

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

2.30 hours still race how long to change a gearbox if they do?

beelsebob
beelsebob
85
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 15:49
Location: Cupertino, California

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

siskue2005 wrote:if this is about Alonso getting to clean side, why dont they change his Gearbox and start from 13th? 8)
Do you really need an answer to that?

stefan_
stefan_
696
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 12:43
Location: Bucharest, Romania

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

adam2003 wrote:2.30 hours still race how long to change a gearbox if they do?
Yesterday Lotus changed Grosjean's gearbox between FP3 and Q1.
Last edited by stefan_ on 18 Nov 2012, 18:39, edited 1 time in total.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

adam2003
adam2003
-1
Joined: 23 Aug 2012, 11:53

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

stefan_ wrote:
adam2003 wrote:2.30 hours still race how long to change a gearbox if they do?
Yesterday Lotus changed Grosjean's gearbox between FP3 and Q1 or something like that.
So a couple or hours if they are going to change they will be doing it now surly

stefan_
stefan_
696
Joined: 04 Feb 2012, 12:43
Location: Bucharest, Romania

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1

#F1 I hear via good source that Ferrari will indeed go for the Massa penalty. All they have to do is break the seal, not change 'box
That would be kind of dumb just to break the seal. At least they can change it and have a fresh one for Brazil.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

User avatar
siskue2005
70
Joined: 11 May 2007, 21:50

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

it takes time to replace it, atleast an hour...so thats why
it will be real joke if we see the dirty side not as slippery as poeple make it be :lol:
and we have a normal race start :)
Last edited by siskue2005 on 18 Nov 2012, 18:52, edited 4 times in total.

sknguy
sknguy
3
Joined: 14 Dec 2004, 21:02

Re: 2012 US GP - Circuit of the Americas

Post

Just finished re-watching the qualifying session, and there were just no marbles (or clag) on the track. I wonder how much the tires won't degrade today? And how long will they make the mediums last? Drivers are having some struggles finding the limit on their tires, and there might be some spins today... maybe even safety car periods. Once the circuit rubbers in after those races next year this is going to be a great, technical circuit for the drivers.
Last edited by sknguy on 18 Nov 2012, 18:51, edited 1 time in total.