Fresh rubber but a man on a mission and no-one was going to get in his waySamH123 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxTgZzR2 ... e=youtu.be


Fresh rubber but a man on a mission and no-one was going to get in his waySamH123 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxTgZzR2 ... e=youtu.be
Well both Pirelli and Mercedes say that the FIA knew about the test, so I guess both could be lying... Also it wasn't a private event held in secret. The test was set up in front of the other teams whilst they were all packing up. If they were planning something they knew to be illegal then they wouldn't have done it like that.Overdriving wrote:No, we know nothing. FIA said nothing so far on the matter. All we know is what Mercs and Pirelli are claiming, and they didn't sound or look very sure when they answered questions. FIA might have cleared the test, but the question is, did they give the explicit permission to run the current car? It boggles my mind if they did. There has been no official statement from FIA.
But there will be.
I would think it takes just one glance to see if it is the 2010 car or the W04 ?!Juzh wrote: They were surely aware they are running A car, but certainly not THIS year's car.
Holy s**t!SamH123 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxTgZzR2 ... e=youtu.be
I asked this already before.If anyone can show me where it says in F1 regulations that you can run a 2013 car outside of grand Prix weekend, I'll admit Mercs and Pirelli have done nothing wrong. In-season testing is illegal. That's actually in the rules, you know. And I'll believe the rules over Pirelli and Mercs' claims. If the rules say you can't test in-season with your current car except for shooting pictures or straightline testing, that's it. No commercial agreement with Pirelli can overrule that. No exceptions.myurr wrote:Well both Pirelli and Mercedes say that the FIA knew about the test, so I guess both could be lying... Also it wasn't a private event held in secret. The test was set up in front of the other teams whilst they were all packing up. If they were planning something they knew to be illegal then they wouldn't have done it like that.Overdriving wrote:No, we know nothing. FIA said nothing so far on the matter. All we know is what Mercs and Pirelli are claiming, and they didn't sound or look very sure when they answered questions. FIA might have cleared the test, but the question is, did they give the explicit permission to run the current car? It boggles my mind if they did. There has been no official statement from FIA.
But there will be.
If Pirelli have it written into their contract then why does it boggle your mind?
I've read that Botas have interview to some TV station that his team told him Raikkonen is leading the race and he saw blue flags everywhere, so he let him pass!stefan_ wrote:Holy s**t!SamH123 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxTgZzR2 ... e=youtu.be
I would name this "How to smoke three cars in two laps around Monaco" by Kimi Räikkönen.
Assuming they are in the wrong, what should be the punishment?Overdriving wrote:I asked this already before.If anyone can show me where it says in F1 regulations that you can run a 2013 car outside of grand Prix weekend, I'll admit Mercs and Pirelli have done nothing wrong. In-season testing is illegal. That's actually in the rules, you know. And I'll believe the rules over Pirelli and Mercs' claims. If the rules say you can't test in-season with your current car except for shooting pictures or straightline testing, that's it. No commercial agreement with Pirelli can overrule that. No exceptions.myurr wrote:Well both Pirelli and Mercedes say that the FIA knew about the test, so I guess both could be lying... Also it wasn't a private event held in secret. The test was set up in front of the other teams whilst they were all packing up. If they were planning something they knew to be illegal then they wouldn't have done it like that.Overdriving wrote:No, we know nothing. FIA said nothing so far on the matter. All we know is what Mercs and Pirelli are claiming, and they didn't sound or look very sure when they answered questions. FIA might have cleared the test, but the question is, did they give the explicit permission to run the current car? It boggles my mind if they did. There has been no official statement from FIA.
But there will be.
If Pirelli have it written into their contract then why does it boggle your mind?
If we have to be pedantic right at that spot of the track Ricciardo got Raikkonen'edstefan_ wrote: I feel bad for RIcciardo because he got Schumachered from behind by Grosjean.
How could they "glance" a car if no one was there bar mercedes and pirelli? They were testing from wednesday onwards and I guess most teams left by monday already, maybe tuesday.henra wrote:I would think it takes just one glance to see if it is the 2010 car or the W04 ?!Juzh wrote: They were surely aware they are running A car, but certainly not THIS year's car.
Well, no. Raikkonen lost control over a bump and hit Sutil. One of those things. Grosjean simply drove into the back of Rcciardo because he didn't think ahead about where to brake. Entirely different.Dragonfly wrote:If we have to be pedantic right at that spot of the track Ricciardo got Raikkonen'edAsk Sutil
If it were so clear cut why would Mercedes, who have in house lawyers and people specifically for interpreting the rules, believe it to be legal?Overdriving wrote:I asked this already before.If anyone can show me where it says in F1 regulations that you can run a 2013 car outside of grand Prix weekend, I'll admit Mercs and Pirelli have done nothing wrong. In-season testing is illegal. That's actually in the rules, you know. And I'll believe the rules over Pirelli and Mercs' claims. If the rules say you can't test in-season with your current car except for shooting pictures or straightline testing, that's it. No commercial agreement with Pirelli can overrule that. No exceptions.
A crash course in how to overtake for Perez and Grosjean I think.stefan_ wrote:I would name this "How to smoke three cars in two laps around Monaco" by Kimi Räikkönen.
They don't care. They needed that test to work out what the hell to do with their car. Looks like it worked.myurr wrote:If it were so clear cut why would Mercedes, who have in house lawyers and people specifically for interpreting the rules, believe it to be legal?