2013 Italian GP - Monza

[Morteza]

So is the championship all but over now?

It was over since Malaysia... Another boring season...

Kimi and Lewis drove the hell out of their cars today. It was those two who made watching the race fun for me.

[zeph]

Ya gotta hand it to RBR, they don't put a foot wrong. It's not just the car (Newey), it's not just the driver (Vettel). The entire organization is firing on all cylinders. Kudos to Horner for running such a tight ship. Everybody at RBR is doing a great job.

[turbof1]

So is the championship all but over now?

Yep. Realistically it's now safe to say it is over. 7 races to go, a massive lead of 53 points. Japan will be probably be a bit too soon, but at India we'll see one massive finger.

If he wins the next 3 races, he'll also have more points then last year.

[Traction]

Flawless victory for Seb..congratulations! Great defending into the first corner again, even with the lock up.

Alonso rock solid.

Webber useless.

Hamilton superb on fresh tyres in the latter stages.

[zeph]

Webber useless.

Why? I thought he had a good race today.

[SilverArrow10]

Well Vettel would have won in Britain without problems and likely Hungary with the faster car( come on it was see his times in clear air) if he hadn't got stuck. He has six victories when no one has more than 2. Yeah its over. its Just 2011 all over again.

[Traction]

Webber useless.

Why? I thought he had a good race today.

IMO he just doesn't push hard enough, I know at the latter stages the gear box was not 100% but early on he just can't give it everything. Not just this race but many many others.

[Morteza]

Webber useless.

Why? I thought he had a good race today.

IMO he just doesn't push hard enough, I know at the latter stages the gear box was not 100% but early on he just can't give it everything. Not just this race but many many others.

Really? He set his fastest lap of the race on lap 53 with a 1:26.690. Vettel did it on lap 52 with a 1:27.190. I don't get the he doesn't push hard enough part at all...

[CHT]

Boring race, but I thought Webber made it too easy for Alonso, especially when he has a quick car at his disposal.

[Traction]

His results tell his story..he has one of the best cars on the track and he hardly ever uses it to his full potential, yes there might be spurts of quick times a bit of battling here and there but IMO he just doesn't have the fighting spirit of a Hamilton, Alonso or a Webber

[diego.liv]

He made a mistake. several actually, some can have been caused by the first mistake damaging the car but nonetheless he took full blame even though we all saw Sutil blocking him.

I was using the F1 timing screen yesterday and on the lap that Sutil blocked him, Hamilton's sector 2 time was up around 10secs (~38s instead of ~28s). There has been no mention of this and something must have happened to lose so much time. Nothing was shown on BBC TV. I suspect that the Sutil block (what less than 1sec?) is being used as a bit of a smokescreen.

Is there anywhere to review the sector times of final qualifying? (New here so apologies if I've missed something). Or does anyone know what really happened (spin, off the track?)

I thought Hamilton did the 1.24.8xx during that lap, when Sutil slowed the Merc. Then, Hamilton did a 38s sector two the next lap, we saw between the 1.24.8xx and the turn 1, that hamilton couldn't get reed of Sutil ( given that Sutil has just began his fast lap).

Good tah Ham blames himself, but that block was in his timed lap costing him Q2

[beelsebob]

He made a mistake. several actually, some can have been caused by the first mistake damaging the car but nonetheless he took full blame even though we all saw Sutil blocking him.

I was using the F1 timing screen yesterday and on the lap that Sutil blocked him, Hamilton's sector 2 time was up around 10secs (~38s instead of ~28s). There has been no mention of this and something must have happened to lose so much time. Nothing was shown on BBC TV. I suspect that the Sutil block (what less than 1sec?) is being used as a bit of a smokescreen.

Is there anywhere to review the sector times of final qualifying? (New here so apologies if I've missed something). Or does anyone know what really happened (spin, off the track?)

I thought Hamilton did the 1.24.8xx during that lap, when Sutil slowed the Merc. Then, Hamilton did a 38s sector two the next lap, we saw between the 1.24.8xx and the turn 1, that hamilton couldn't get reed of Sutil ( given that Sutil has just began his fast lap).

Good tah Ham blames himself, but that block was in his timed lap costing him Q2

Note – Hamilton blames himself because he damaged the car on his first run in the same interview he also stated categorically that Sutil blocked him significantly on the second run (but that he still blames himself because he should have got the job done earlier, and he's right).

[Just_a_fan]

Well Vettel would have won in Britain without problems and likely Hungary with the faster car( come on it was see his times in clear air) if he hadn't got stuck. He has six victories when no one has more than 2. Yeah its over. its Just 2011 all over again.

Umm, Vettel would have finished 2nd in Britain. Hamilton had that race covered until the tyre issues reared their ugly head.

[beelsebob]

Well Vettel would have won in Britain without problems and likely Hungary with the faster car( come on it was see his times in clear air) if he hadn't got stuck. He has six victories when no one has more than 2. Yeah its over. its Just 2011 all over again.

Umm, Vettel would have finished 2nd in Britain. Hamilton had that race covered until the tyre issues reared their ugly head.

Yup, indeed – this year it's been fairly easy to determine who's going to win of Merc and RBR early on in the race. If Hamilton is still ahead at the end of lap 1, it's in the bag for Merc already. If not, RBR are disappearing into the distance.

[sennafan24]

Hulky and Hamilton were my stars of the race. Despite a underwhelming qualifying session and him being hard on himself, Lewis overcame that early slow puncture to produce an inspired performance, with rapid fast laps and overtakes.

Hulkenberg in terms of the car he has had no right to be mixing it with the cars he did, it was achieved on pure merit of driving ability. I hope at the least he gets a Lotus driver next year, he really deserves it. Vettel and Alonso were solid at the front, the difference in the position was down to the car advantage, in terms of driving ability I think they were quite close today.

Riccardo did his stock the world of good, and finally passes JEV in the points standings.