2014 British GP - Silverstone

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gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.

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beelsebob wrote:
gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.
Good point, I think right after Lewis came out Nico's gearbox issues hadn't gone critical as they were doing pretty similar lap times. If Nico didn't retire I'm sure Lewis would have passed/won as he was on a 1 stop and Nico 2. The gap was only 5 seconds?

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heidenreich27 wrote: Vettel had newer tyres, there was nothing equal about the fight, and Alonso had issues with the rear wing, the team told him to go slower in the fast corners, they even talked about retirement.
Still Vettel could hardly keep up on the straights. That makes overtaking very difficult even with newer tyres. Being able to drive faster in fast corners means zilch when you are stuck behind another car that is, however, faster on the starights and especially in acceleration.
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Alonso's drive was hugely impressive.

He was taking different lines behind or ahead of cars, hitting apexes at varying degrees of attitude all to overtake or defend. This guy is a technician! Wonderful to watch. =D>
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beelsebob wrote:
gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.
I think there might have been a bit more fuel in Hamiltons car than Rosbergs, because they couldn't really predict how fast he could get to 2nd, that could be the reason why he wasn't closing in as fast when he got to that 2nd place, also the tyre strategy - it looked like he was stretching his 1st stint to have a bit more tires/fuel left at the end of the race to mount a serious offensive
60DShim wrote: Good point, I think right after Lewis came out Nico's gearbox issues hadn't gone critical as they were doing pretty similar lap times. If Nico didn't retire I'm sure Lewis would have passed/won as he was on a 1 stop and Nico 2. The gap was only 5 seconds?
to me it didn't look like a 1stop for HAM, it was argued that the 1stop was ~6sec slower over the whole race
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jz11 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.
I think there might have been a bit more fuel in Hamiltons car than Rosbergs, because they couldn't really predict how fast he could get to 2nd, that could be the reason why he wasn't closing in as fast when he got to that 2nd place, also the tyre strategy - it looked like he was stretching his 1st stint to have a bit more tires/fuel left at the end of the race to mount a serious offensive
I don't think that's it - Lewis's car is usually fueled less than Nico's, and even was at the last race where he started ninth. If anything, starting low on the grid, you want a light car at the start to help passing.

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beelsebob wrote:
gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.
Me too. At first, Rosberg was able to ever so slightly increase the gap on Hamilton.
Then, suddenly he started losing half a second in just one lap. Either the tyres started to give up at that point or the Gremlins already started their work in his gear box. That was a couple of laps before he mentioned gear box woes on the radio. Later in the race same Scenario. First opening up the gap, then suddenly, out of the blue losing half a second and then 1s and 2s the next laps. I find it hard to rule out that this was due to the gear box malfunctioning.

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According to Brundle, Bianchi may be testing for Ferrari next week as Kimi may miss the test due to his injuries.

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henra wrote:
Me too. At first, Rosberg was able to ever so slightly increase the gap on Hamilton.
Then, suddenly he started losing half a second in just one lap.
That's pretty normal for this pair, Rosberg always tends to start to overheat the rear tyres when pushing hard. That's why Hamilton generally gains on him at the end of a stint.

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Congratulations to Lewis on his home win. Finally a DNF for Nico as well to spice up the WDC fight. A big congratulations to Bottas and Williams as well. They deserve that result.

Alonso vs. Vettel for me was the best part of the race. Damn, Alonso can drive. The guy is an absolute joy to watch on the track. Hats off to him. I'm a Hamilton fan, but kudos to Alonso for such an amazing drive in that car.
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FoxHound wrote:
bhall II wrote:He wasn't out there on foot, yanno?
True that.

However, are you not impressed with the way he used his car?
Yeah he was.
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henra wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
gray41 wrote:Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.
Personally, I find it unclear whether him gaining on Nico was to do with pace, or Nico's failure progressing. He certainly did start gaining a lot after a few laps though.
Me too. At first, Rosberg was able to ever so slightly increase the gap on Hamilton.
Then, suddenly he started losing half a second in just one lap. Either the tyres started to give up at that point or the Gremlins already started their work in his gear box. That was a couple of laps before he mentioned gear box woes on the radio. Later in the race same Scenario. First opening up the gap, then suddenly, out of the blue losing half a second and then 1s and 2s the next laps. I find it hard to rule out that this was due to the gear box malfunctioning.
Lewis was gaining on Nico for pretty much all of the race.

He got a 5-6s gap down to 2.x seconds or so at the end of the first stint, which was predictably increased to 5-6s again by the pit crew when he stopped for new tyres.

Nico wasn't really that much faster than Lewis on his new options while Lewis stayed out till he started to lose around 3-4 tenths in sector 2 alone per lap. When Lewis changed his tyres he was immediately much faster once more.

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Oh, hell, yeah. I don't know what corner number it's considered now on the new layout, but I got a little moist when Alonso pantsed Vettel around the outside of old turn-1.

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bhall II wrote:Oh, hell, yeah. I don't know what corner number it's considered now on the new layout, but I got a little moist when Alonso pantsed Vettel around the outside of old turn-1.
That was epic, man. I was shouting no no no no...
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What is 47 G anyway?