2014 British GP - Silverstone

[beelsebob]

Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.

I disagree, without Rosberg's problem it would be very hard/impossible to overtake

Neither Bottas nor Alonso seemed to have any significant issue.

[Dragonfly]

Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.

I disagree, without Rosberg's problem it would be very hard/impossible to overtake

Neither Bottas nor Alonso seemed to have any significant issue.

except that they do not drive Mercedes cars. And I can't see the connection to Lewis.

[Traction]

This is so funny...Lewis inherits a win and the fans insist he would have won anyhow, Seb gets the better of Alonso in a straight up battle and everyone refuses to acknowledge it.. Lewis been the populist gets his efforts elevated and Seb been the traditional guys people love to undermine gets hie efforts down played =D>

And I love how Lewis wins in the same manner that Rosberg has won earlier in the year and all the usual suspects are out in force downplaying his drive. Lewis was 1 second a lap quicker than Rosberg in the race and didn't need to stop again where Rosberg did, simple as.

Edit: And it was a good drive from Vettel, albeit on the wrong 2 stop strategy which was why he was behind Alonso in the first place. I didn't like his whining on the radio, he had after all pulled the same stunt banging wheels with Hamilton on the opening lap, but other than that he did good. Alonso also drove really well to keep him behind as long as he did.

Doesn't matter what happened before Nico retired. It's all speculation whether he would have won or not.Whenever someone wins after someone retires it's a bit hollow, no matter who wins. Supporters should just take the win and be happy.

For sure Vettel was on the wrong strategy. I can't figure out why he/ RB chose the one they did.

[Dragonfly]

For sure Vettel was on the wrong strategy. I can't figure out why he/ RB chose the one they did.

Maybe they gambled on higher rain probability?

[myurr]

except that they do not drive Mercedes cars. And I can't see the connection to Lewis.

Lewis was 1 second per lap faster at the point Rosberg hit trouble, and could have 1 stopped had he chosen to do so whereas Rosberg had to stop again. Rosberg got the strategy wrong and also didn't have good race pace. There's no guarantees but chances are Hamilton would have beaten him.

[myurr]

Doesn't matter what happened before Nico retired. It's all speculation whether he would have won or not.Whenever someone wins after someone retires it's a bit hollow, no matter who wins. Supporters should just take the win and be happy.

And the moaners should stop trying to beat the guy up and just sit looking miserable in the corner. It is a bit hollow, at least Lewis showed he had the pace to today to have had a really good shot of winning anyway rather than looking beaten and then inheriting it.

[kaido]

WOW! i was actually impressed with Ferrari today, The car look half decent had the pace and was making overtakes! Is this a slight turn around for the car or did the track just suit us better?

Even with the bad qualifying and 5 second penalty Alonso looked quick! definitely not Merc quick but still looked like an improvement

[Edax]

Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.

I disagree, without Rosberg's problem it would be very hard/impossible to overtake - look at Vettel-Alonso even without skills difference. He certainly wasn't faultless over the weekend and got away with a free win. The rest is car and 25+ s advantage over everyone else.

Why would Hamilton need to overtake Rosberg? At that point in the race Hamilton had the virtual lead by virtue of startegy, so the overtaking would be on Rosberg.

Hamilton was running 2 seconds behind Rosberg and gaining.
Hamilton had made his last stop, Rosberg needed to make one more.

You don't need a crystall ball or to speculate to claim that if the problem with the gears had not occurred, Rosberg would have lost track position to Hamilton, end have ended up behind Hamilton on his last stint. Of course with fresher tires but behind nevertheless.

[jz11]

This is so funny...Lewis inherits a win and the fans insist he would have won anyhow, Seb gets the better of Alonso in a straight up battle and everyone refuses to acknowledge it.. Lewis been the populist gets his efforts elevated and Seb been the traditional guys people love to undermine gets hie efforts down played =D>

maybe it is because after this not-even-close-to-straight-up battle the 4x WDC was still couple places down to his rookie teammate?

in other words - no one really cared about this outcome to that fight because it was expected, was fun to watch though

[Traction]

Doesn't matter what happened before Nico retired. It's all speculation whether he would have won or not.Whenever someone wins after someone retires it's a bit hollow, no matter who wins. Supporters should just take the win and be happy.

And the moaners should stop trying to beat the guy up and just sit looking miserable in the corner. It is a bit hollow, at least Lewis showed he had the pace to today to have had a really good shot of winning anyway rather than looking beaten and then inheriting it.

Agreed..he never slacked off for a second..

[Traction]

This is so funny...Lewis inherits a win and the fans insist he would have won anyhow, Seb gets the better of Alonso in a straight up battle and everyone refuses to acknowledge it.. Lewis been the populist gets his efforts elevated and Seb been the traditional guys people love to undermine gets hie efforts down played =D>

maybe it is because after this not-even-close-to-straight-up battle the 4x WDC was still couple places down to his rookie teammate?

in other words - no one really cared about this outcome to that fight because it was expected, was fun to watch though

Lol

[iotar__]

Hamilton's winning every theoretical situation that's not happening - his supporters. Too bad he can't win those real ones unless something happens to his team-mate. One more stop - impossible. He got race win for free after messing up qualifying again, this time in the most hilarious fashion possible. As for car's advantage, it really bails you out after mistakes. Put 4-6 cars that are slower but only 0,3 s between Hamilton and Rosberg in two recent races and he's not ending up second easily or at all.

Alonso: "I think he was reporting every time I was going out, I had two or three warnings from race direction. He was doing the same behind me, I was looking in the mirrors and could see. Especially in the lap he overtook me he did it two or three times, not one but two or three car lengths [gained]." Only two or three, how many can you get - 20? Three times, two car's length - not a problem. That's zero tolerance policy for you.

[deterherligt]

Lewis was faultless today, got some luck but I think he had Nico anyways.

I disagree, without Rosberg's problem it would be very hard/impossible to overtake - look at Vettel-Alonso even without skills difference. He certainly wasn't faultless over the weekend and got away with a free win. The rest is car and 25+ s advantage over everyone else.

Why would Hamilton need to overtake Rosberg? At that point in the race Hamilton had the virtual lead by virtue of startegy, so the overtaking would be on Rosberg.

Hamilton was running 2 seconds behind Rosberg and gaining.
Hamilton had made his last stop, Rosberg needed to make one more.

You don't need a crystall ball or to speculate to claim that if the problem with the gears had not occurred, Rosberg would have lost track position to Hamilton, end have ended up behind Hamilton on his last stint. Of course with fresher tires but behind nevertheless.

Didnt Paddy say on Sky that Lewis was on a two-stop? In that case he had to overtake Niko. The prime tire just showed to be alot faster than the option tire

[myurr]

Hamilton's winning every theoretical situation that's not happening - his supporters. Too bad he can't win those real ones unless something happens to his team-mate. One more stop - impossible. He got race win for free after messing up qualifying again, this time in the most hilarious fashion possible. As for car's advantage, it really bails you out after mistakes. Put 4-6 cars that are slower but only 0,3 s between Hamilton and Rosberg in two recent races and he's not ending up second easily or at all.

Uh huh. What about when he won 4 in a row? He's made it hard for himself in the last couple of races, but Rosberg has been helped out by the cars pace before now as well so it's not all one sided. What about those races where Hamilton was well clear but Rosberg had a reduced advantage over the chasing pack? Were the cars advantage not so great then he would have finished several places back. Ditto for Canada.

Are you really claiming a 1 stop race was impossible today? Also do you deny that Hamilton was roughly 1s per lap faster in that second stint?

[myurr]

Didnt Paddy say on Sky that Lewis was on a two-stop? In that case he had to overtake Niko. The prime tire just showed to be alot faster than the option tire

He awkwardly denied knowing the strategy and ended up saying that a two stop was impossible, which is demonstrably false. Other's ran far longer in the 2nd stint that Lewis would have had to.