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Lewis Hamilton has won the British Grand Prix, his home race held at Silverstone, inheriting the lead of Nico Rosberg following his gearbox failure. Valtteri Bottas is on the podium again in second place while Daniel Ricciardo completes the podium in third.
I disagree with you again that Hamilton starts with less fuel but let me use your logic...beelsebob wrote:No, he wouldn't - because again - he's using less fuel. The teams have an expected curve of fuel usage for the race. If you're above that curve, you'll get told you can use higher engine modes. If you're below it, you'll get told to fuel save. Nico gets told to fuel save more because he tends to dip below the curve more. He does that because his style requires that he uses a lot of fuel. When he drives fast, he uses a lot, he drives slower by not using as much. Meanwhile, something about Hamilton's style means that he can get the pace out of the car while driving fast still. The result is that he doesn't need to use lots of fuel to drive fast, and hence starts on less fuel, and doesn't get warned as much.n smikle wrote:The flaw in that reasoning is that the drivers target the last lap to use their targeted amount. This is not true. The target that the drivers see is a moving target and they driver drives as fast as he can until he the warnings come up.SectorOne wrote:That´s the thing. If Hamilton uses less fuel, people say he´s gonna have less in the tank.
And therefore have the same exact margins as Rosberg to finish the race but it´s always Rosberg that gets told he´s on the limit.
If the margins is the same you would expect both to get a somewhat equal amounts of radio messages about saving fuel.
Or am i missing something? Probably am.
I´ve only heard the usual from Hamilton´s radio saying "yea save a little bit in Tx"
But usually when it´s Rosberg it´s "ok fuel is critical, you need to save fuel"
For both driver's their fuel usuage when in fuel saving modes are similar as their driving style would be dictated by staying under the given target.
That's why we always see that 4% difference that stabilizes before the closing laps. The driver's are tempering their style to stay within the limit.
If Hamilton was fueled lighter he would get that call before Rosberg does.
I disagree with you again that Hamilton starts with less fuel but let me use your logic...n smikle wrote:No, he wouldn't - because again - he's using less fuel. The teams have an expected curve of fuel usage for the race. If you're above that curve, you'll get told you can use higher engine modes. If you're below it, you'll get told to fuel save. Nico gets told to fuel save more because he tends to dip below the curve more. He does that because his style requires that he uses a lot of fuel. When he drives fast, he uses a lot, he drives slower by not using as much. Meanwhile, something about Hamilton's style means that he can get the pace out of the car while driving fast still. The result is that he doesn't need to use lots of fuel to drive fast, and hence starts on less fuel, and doesn't get warned as much.
That's a really good question. I think one possible explanation is above. Rosberg tends to get the "you're bingo fuel" warning in races he's leading - it could very well be that he puts his boot in to make sure he's ahead of DRS.So why does Rosberg suck so much at keeping below his fuel usage Delta that he is warned almost every race to get his stompers off the pedal?
Definitely power. Be it ice or ers deployment. That ferrari was making short work of merc powered stuff into stowe at times during the race.seahawk wrote:What could be the reason? Better traction or more power?
Or it could be that Alonso was ahead and therefore was putting his foot down earlier and was deliberately slow on the apex causing Vettel to hesitate. You see it in every race and it even has a name - the concertina effect - where cars close in the corners and spread out on the straights, as the lead car brakes and accelerates earlier and also as the distance covered at high speed is more than at low speed (presuming constant time between the cars).Juzh wrote:Definitely power. Be it ice or ers deployment. That ferrari was making short work of merc powered stuff into stowe at times during the race.seahawk wrote:What could be the reason? Better traction or more power?
I saw the concertina effect personally. Alonso varied his breaking on the apex visibly a few times, forcing Vettel either wide or to brake when he needn't.Juzh wrote:Just watched the race again. Ferrari was much faster in mid-range acceleration than the red bull, simply driving away from vetttel trough the first couple of gears, then when drs, slipstream and drag started to kick in vettel was gaining again, but at that time alonso was long gone on the straights. That's just an observable fact.
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