2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
ripper
ripper
39
Joined: 26 Aug 2015, 22:19

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

Yep, few minutes ago came out this article: http://www.f1technical.net/news/20366 , so they will probably try a one stopper helped by low temperature and degradation

f1316
f1316
84
Joined: 22 Feb 2012, 18:36

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

djos wrote:
rayden wrote:Amazing the development rate that RB constantly brings.

The shine is coming off verstappen a bit for me. He a potential champ, but he not the "once in a generation driver" he was billed as coming in.
I have to agree, Dan outclassed Max in all 3 qually sessions very comfortably.

Btw I was very impressed by Fernando's efforts grabbing a top 10 starting slot! =D>
I think anyone who saw Max vs Sainz and thought he was leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else was not paying enough attention. Sainz is very good too and, on balance, Max probably looks that tiny bit better (and younger) but the margin was virtually non-existent.

I actually think he's doing well to be so close to ricciardo so soon, given that it's a car/team ricciardo knows much better and he himself is probably one of the faster drivers out there. So with expectations in check, personally I think Max is doing well.

basti313
basti313
28
Joined: 22 Feb 2014, 14:49

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

ripper wrote:
search wrote:
ripper wrote:How many new sets of tyre each driver has?
this needs to be confirmed, it's just from my own records (but should be more or less correct)

http://i.imgur.com/C8RH84U.png
Thanks a lot, nice work!
=D>
+1
ripper wrote:Last year it was a one stop race right? so they could do or a 2 pit stop one with US-SS-S (or US-S-SS) or risk a one stopper US-S

If it doesn't rain of course
Asuming dry and clear getaway:
On the front it will be clear 1-stop.
RedBull will not gamble with Ric, so 1-stop for him too.
VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
VES....I guess we will see a US-US-S if he manages not to crash.
Don`t russel the hamster!

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race

User avatar
Juzh
161
Joined: 06 Oct 2012, 08:45

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

search wrote:
basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They're mandatory to have it availabe, not mandatory to actually use it.

User avatar
iotar__
7
Joined: 28 Sep 2012, 12:31

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

search wrote:
basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They don't but why all those two stoppers suddenly (previous post)? Raikkonen maybe, I don't understand one run in Q3 and of course he blew it anyway but why others?

It's a one stop dry/colder race. I don't want to be negative but it would be safer to keep Vettel behind Merc than to risk traffic and rely on overtaking. SC is another issue. Ok he's running third how early they'd have to make the first stop on a two stopper, I assume rather late (for tyre difference)? We'll see but I doubt it especially with 2 vs 1 driver and Red Bull behind (normal start).

basti313
basti313
28
Joined: 22 Feb 2014, 14:49

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

iotar__ wrote:
search wrote:
basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They don't but why all those two stoppers suddenly (previous post)?
Just some thoughts on who may go different...not sure of course, if anyone will do it.
iotar__ wrote: Raikkonen maybe, I don't understand one run in Q3 and of course he blew it anyway but why others?
Just one set of new US left. So they did what they usually do in this case: Go for one run in the middle of the 2-runs done by the others.
iotar__ wrote: It's a one stop dry/colder race. I don't want to be negative but it would be safer to keep Vettel behind Merc than to risk traffic and rely on overtaking. SC is another issue. Ok he's running third how early they'd have to make the first stop on a two stopper, I assume rather late (for tyre difference)? We'll see but I doubt it especially with 2 vs 1 driver and Red Bull behind (normal start).
I do not see Vet doing anything else but 1-stop if he is on P3 after the start, as you say just because of traffic. He will go for an early stop at lap 20 to put a bit of pressure on the Mercs if he is still close at this point and traffic allows it. Otherwise extend as long as possible...the Mercs have better tires and can just wait until Vet has to pit.
If he drops back at the start there is only the chance to go for aggressive as he has older tires than anyone else. Either aggressive 1-stop with an early stop or 2-stop. Both may end up in traffic, so I see no clear reason, why 2-stop should be worse.
Don`t russel the hamster!

Webber2011
Webber2011
10
Joined: 25 Jan 2011, 01:01
Location: Australia NSW

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

Juzh wrote:
search wrote:
basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They're mandatory to have it availabe, not mandatory to actually use it.
How does that work, and what's the point of it then ?
Makes no sense to say "this is the mandatory tyre" then have no one forced to use it ?
Pointless.

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

Juzh wrote:
search wrote:
basti313 wrote:VET or RAI may go for US-SS-S or maybe even US-US-SS, if they end up behind after the start. 1-stop for VET if he is P3, but this will be hard with the older US.
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They're mandatory to have it availabe, not mandatory to actually use it.
mmh, that's not what Pirelli announced though:

These are the MANDATORY tyres to be available for the race: 2 two sets of P Zero Yellow soft

Each driver must have both these sets available for the race, and must use at least one of them.


http://www.pirelli.com/corporate/en/pre ... d-choices/

seems like my list of available tires up there is not quite correct then though as I have some drivers with only 1 S left (while 2 have to be available)

basti313
basti313
28
Joined: 22 Feb 2014, 14:49

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

search wrote:
Juzh wrote:
search wrote:
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They're mandatory to have it availabe, not mandatory to actually use it.
mmh, that's not what Pirelli announced though:

These are the MANDATORY tyres to be available for the race: 2 two sets of P Zero Yellow soft

Each driver must have both these sets available for the race, and must use at least one of them.


http://www.pirelli.com/corporate/en/pre ... d-choices/

seems like my list of available tires up there is not quite correct then though as I have some drivers with only 1 S left (while 2 have to be available)
Well, of course they might have used ones available. But interesting, that 2 times Soft is mandatory...why did they cut down the strategies like that???
Don`t russel the hamster!

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

basti313 wrote: Well, of course they might have used ones available. But interesting, that 2 times Soft is mandatory...why did they cut down the strategies like that???
yeah, sure, McLaren and Haas (those who I had down with only 1 set of Softs left), must have a used set available then, and therefor one less from the other.

I think it need to be two because there's only one mandatory tire this weekend, and usually there are two (with one set each to be available). Why exactly... no idea.

User avatar
Juzh
161
Joined: 06 Oct 2012, 08:45

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

search wrote:
Juzh wrote:
search wrote:
they need to use the S at least once if it's dry, it's the (only) mandatory tire for this race
They're mandatory to have it availabe, not mandatory to actually use it.
mmh, that's not what Pirelli announced though:

These are the MANDATORY tyres to be available for the race: 2 two sets of P Zero Yellow soft

Each driver must have both these sets available for the race, and must use at least one of them.
Sorry. You're right. This then makes this race 100% a one stopper.

Edax
Edax
47
Joined: 08 Apr 2014, 22:47

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

f1316 wrote:
djos wrote:
rayden wrote:Amazing the development rate that RB constantly brings.

The shine is coming off verstappen a bit for me. He a potential champ, but he not the "once in a generation driver" he was billed as coming in.
I have to agree, Dan outclassed Max in all 3 qually sessions very comfortably.

Btw I was very impressed by Fernando's efforts grabbing a top 10 starting slot! =D>
I think anyone who saw Max vs Sainz and thought he was leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else was not paying enough attention. Sainz is very good too and, on balance, Max probably looks that tiny bit better (and younger) but the margin was virtually non-existent.

I actually think he's doing well to be so close to ricciardo so soon, given that it's a car/team ricciardo knows much better and he himself is probably one of the faster drivers out there. So with expectations in check, personally I think Max is doing well.
Agree. Besides in an interview after quali he admitted that he wasn't going full out because he got the order of the team that he should play it safe (due to the Monaco debacle). During the qualifying laps he was well away from the wall of champions. Compare that to last year, where he left rubber marks just about every lap.

Looking at Ricciardio's brush with the WOC I think we can safely say that Riciardo was on the limit).

In any way he did better than his dad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHNddPhWjM

GoranF1
GoranF1
151
Joined: 16 Dec 2014, 12:53
Location: Zagreb,Croatia

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

anyone knows latest forecast for the race?
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

3jawchuck
3jawchuck
37
Joined: 03 Feb 2015, 08:57

Re: 2016 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, Fri 10 – Sun 12 Jun

Post

GoranF1 wrote:anyone knows latest forecast for the race?
Accuweather says likely rain before but none during the race.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/montre ... 86?hour=11