2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

[F1NAC]

Definitely, ROS made a mistake there (but having braking troubles), but HAM moved in strangely aggressively when it was clear already that ROS was not going to hit the apex.
Almost looks like he's going for Nico's frontwing, very dodgy move. Seems like he succeeded. Pulling a Jerez 97 there?

Well if rosberg was infront that would be very similar, but here Hamilton was the guy in front.

[wesley123]

Well, he was trying to stop the car?

Then why didnt he block his wheels? Considering Rosberg knew Hamilton was there.

Because locking wheels stops you less than not-locking wheels.

If you are seriously trying to brake then you'll block your wheels in situations like these. If he didn't that simply means he either chose not to brake more or wss aware of an issue, both aren't arguments for Rosberg to completely miss the apex and not turn in.

[SchuMassa]

https://s31.postimg.org/lc93u8a9n/collision_3.png

https://s32.postimg.org/z6bfgq7d1/collision_2.png

If it had been deliberate, he wouldn't have turned. It's Nico's mistake, no doubt about that, but he surely didn't do it on purpose.

Those who have known Nico for long, clearly know he would do it on purpose. That's how messy he is.

You must know him for a long time then. And you must've seen his telemetry as well.

[Jolle]

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched (and just because you're biased).

https://s31.postimg.org/lc93u8a9n/collision_3.png

https://s32.postimg.org/z6bfgq7d1/collision_2.png

If it had been deliberate, he wouldn't have turned. It's Nico's mistake, no doubt about that, but he surely didn't do it on purpose.

It's just a returning problem for Rosberg, of course he didn't do it on purpose but at deciding moments like this, he makes mistakes.

[Phil]

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched (and just because you're biased).

https://s31.postimg.org/lc93u8a9n/collision_3.png

https://s32.postimg.org/z6bfgq7d1/collision_2.png

If it had been deliberate, he wouldn't have turned. It's Nico's mistake, no doubt about that, but he surely didn't do it on purpose.

Depends if you want to deliberately...

...cause a collision where both cars retire
...push the other car off the track and accept that there might be a collision?

I dont think its the first, but the 2nd to me looks quite likely.

[wesley123]

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched (and just because you're biased).

https://s31.postimg.org/lc93u8a9n/collision_3.png

https://s32.postimg.org/z6bfgq7d1/collision_2.png

If it had been deliberate, he wouldn't have turned. It's Nico's mistake, no doubt about that, but he surely didn't do it on purpose.

He didn't turn in, that was the whole problem

[matt_b]

Start of the race has to be Pascal Wehrlein, reversing on the grid to find his space before the lights start, being a lap down when the safety car comes out, then to fight back to 10th on a dry track...in a Manor =D>

[Alguck]

Definitely, ROS made a mistake there (but having braking troubles), but HAM moved in strangely aggressively when it was clear already that ROS was not going to hit the apex.
Almost looks like he's going for Nico's frontwing, very dodgy move. Seems like he succeeded. Pulling a Jerez 97 there?

Well if rosberg was infront that would be very similar, but here Hamilton was the guy in front.

Difficult to catch just using Youtube now but this is pretty much where Lewis decided to turn in:


He's not in front and he should see Nico coming.

[wesley123]

Even if we ignore the whole entry of the corner, then Rosberg still purposely blocked Hamilton's way back on the track. Rosberg was aware that Hamilton was close and he was aware of the damage on his front wing, which means he has no reason to be there on the racing line.

[SchuMassa]

Start of the race has to be Pascal Wehrlein, reversing on the grid to find his space before the lights start, being a lap down when the safety car comes out, then to fight back to 10th on a dry track...in a Manor =D>

Good spot! I'm still confused why he didn't get penalised for that.

[wickedz50]

When is the steward verdict coming?

[F1PuertoRico]

https://s32.postimg.org/z6bfgq7d1/collision_2.png

If it had been deliberate, he wouldn't have turned. It's Nico's mistake, no doubt about that, but he surely didn't do it on purpose.

Those who have known Nico for long, clearly know he would do it on purpose. That's how messy he is.

You must know him for a long time then. And you must've seen his telemetry as well.

Spanish GP bring back memories,

[RZS10]

I won't participate in the discussion of the Lewis vs Nico incident ... just some info:

Perez did not have a broken suspension and did not run over Rosberg's debris ... according to Hulk he just ran out of brakes, that's why Hulk retired earlier on as well.

[wesley123]

Definitely, ROS made a mistake there (but having braking troubles), but HAM moved in strangely aggressively when it was clear already that ROS was not going to hit the apex.
Almost looks like he's going for Nico's frontwing, very dodgy move. Seems like he succeeded. Pulling a Jerez 97 there?

Well if rosberg was infront that would be very similar, but here Hamilton was the guy in front.

Difficult to catch just using Youtube now but this is pretty much where Lewis decided to turn in:
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 555919.png

He's not in front and he should see Nico coming.

He saw Rosberg coming, which is why he waited to turn in until he was at the outer edge of the corner

[wickedz50]

Start of the race has to be Pascal Wehrlein, reversing on the grid to find his space before the lights start, being a lap down when the safety car comes out, then to fight back to 10th on a dry track...in a Manor =D>

Good spot! I'm still confused why he didn't get penalised for that.

Let them have a point and ignore his mistake,