2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

[dans79]

He saw Rosberg coming, which is why he waited to turn in until he was at the outer edge of the corner

Yeah, I think Lewis was thinking and outside-in maneuver like Bahrain 2014.

[F1NAC]

I won't participate in the discussion of the Lewis vs Nico incident ... just some info:

Perez did not have a broken suspension and did not run over Rosberg's debris ... according to Hulk he just ran out of brakes, that's why Hulk retired earlier on as well.

Hm that's wierd. I thought that I saw front right tire bouncing which would lead to broken suspension or tire failure

[Alguck]

He saw Rosberg coming, which is why he waited to turn in until he was at the outer edge of the corner

Outer edge? There was still plenty of space and after that the run off area. In any case there was no need to turn in like there was no car between him and the racing line. He may not like to give Nico the space he would have needed, but that's racing.

[Shrieker]

Rosberg knew he was going to get overtaken with the problems he was having, and threw everything and the kitchen sink at Hamilton to keep his position. Trying to push him wide even when he was clearly behind, and then not leaving a centimeter with a broken front wing when Hamilton was rejoining ...

[RZS10]

i can't say much because RTL doesn't show any highlights these days. No analysis, nothing ... just two or three interviews and one scene (ham vs ros).

It's what Hulk said in his interview. No brakes.

[Fulcrum]

To all the people in this thread commenting about tyres - check the tyre allocation. Rosberg had an extra set of Supersoft tyres, Hamilton an extra set of Softs. You use what you have left.

So that is why Hamilton was on USED softs in the end?

Did he have brand new Soft tyres or brand new Supersoft tyres? If he had new Softs, fair enough, those would have been better.

If he had new Supersofts, would he have had a chance to pass Rosberg? My guess is no.

[wesley123]

He saw Rosberg coming, which is why he waited to turn in until he was at the outer edge of the corner

Outer edge? There was still plenty of space and after that the run off area. In any case there was no need to turn in like there was no car between him and the racing line. He may not like to give Nico the space he would have needed, but that's racing.

Seriously? How long did he need to wait until he could turn in, until he was in America?

[ScottB]

Start of the race has to be Pascal Wehrlein, reversing on the grid to find his space before the lights start, being a lap down when the safety car comes out, then to fight back to 10th on a dry track...in a Manor =D>

Good spot! I'm still confused why he didn't get penalised for that.

It was on Sky that apparently there isn't actually a rule against it.

I guess nobody thought it would come up!

[QLDriver]

I think I've seen other drivers overshoot the spot and reverse (by perhaps half a spot).

[jz11]

Rosberg knew he was going to get overtaken with the problems he was having, and threw everything and the kitchen sink at Hamilton to keep his position. Trying to push him wide even when he was clearly behind, and then not leaving a centimeter with a broken front wing when Hamilton was rejoining ...

agree 100% , he could have become Mercedes hero today for making the right choice, accepting 2nd (in light of his brake problems), bringing nice 1-2 home, but he opted to do it the usual, Rosberg, way

[Alguck]

He saw Rosberg coming, which is why he waited to turn in until he was at the outer edge of the corner

Outer edge? There was still plenty of space and after that the run off area. In any case there was no need to turn in like there was no car between him and the racing line. He may not like to give Nico the space he would have needed, but that's racing.

Seriously? How long did he need to wait until he could turn in, until he was in America?

What's the alternative? “I've waited long enough, I will turn in now, no matter who's next to me.”
We've seen that many times, it happens.

[Fulcrum]

Ted Kravitz is disgusting as foock with all this hamilton worshipping.

Being English is enough of an excuse to be a completely biased imbecile according to some members of this forum.

[langwadt]

Definitely, ROS made a mistake there (but having braking troubles), but HAM moved in strangely aggressively when it was clear already that ROS was not going to hit the apex.
Almost looks like he's going for Nico's frontwing, very dodgy move. Seems like he succeeded. Pulling a Jerez 97 there?

Well if rosberg was infront that would be very similar, but here Hamilton was the guy in front.

Difficult to catch just using Youtube now but this is pretty much where Lewis decided to turn in:
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?fi ... 555919.png

He's not in front and he should see Nico coming.

once you have half a car along side you have to make leave space for the other car, and

20.5 Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted.

[NathanOlder]

Ted Kravitz is disgusting as foock with all this hamilton worshipping.

Being English is enough of an excuse to be a completely biased imbecile according to some members of this forum.

The Austrian track side announcers said it was Lewis' fault. Thats why he got all the booing. That biased enough for you?

[Phil]

Did he have brand new Soft tyres or brand new Supersoft tyres? If he had new Softs, fair enough, those would have been better.

If he had new Supersofts, would he have had a chance to pass Rosberg? My guess is no.

They gave Hamilton used softs (7 laps old I think) and Nico's were brand new (or at worst 1 lap) super softs.

It's just all rather strange. Hamilton was the defacto leader. He was first and leading. Then Mercedes decided to pit Rosberg early (despite him already being in a good position) - probably in an attempt to get a 1 & 2. Fair enough. This offset both strategies. They kept Hamilton out, as to suggest he was on a 1-stop race. That is how Rosberg ended up with track position. Theoretically, the assumption was that Rosberg would pit towards the end and fall back again. Yet then they pitted both cars again - this time Hamilton first, but only to give him the worse tire. That really makes it seem that the team somehow wanted to give Rosberg an advantage. Technically, at the point Mercedes pitted both cars, Rosbergs was 11 laps older than Hamiltons. So they knew Hamiltons tire would last to the end on good pace. Yet they brought him him as well AND gave him the worse tire.

Then Hamilton, realising this, comes on the radio to question why Rosbegr is on the softer tire.

Seriously, this shunt and collision is very much Mercedes own fault.