2016 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, Fri 01 – Sun 03 Jul 2016

[F1PuertoRico]

Looks to me like Hamilton was nowhere near being pushed off the track at the moment he initiated his turn...

http://i.imgur.com/cekMWNU.jpg

Being kept off-line is not the same thing as being pushed off-track.

In any case, it's a damn good thing that Mercedes produces high-quality power units. In a race against legitimate competition, the team's hopes would regularly be dashed by inadequate driver management and/or inept race strategy.

Luckily we know what running someone off the road at that corner and outbraking oneself actually looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSipCiyVucY

Is this what Rosberg did? No penalties for the above incident either.

Awesome video! I see a difference. Juan Pablo did locked the brakes and rear end came loose. He actually took the racing line, just to hot in the corner. Rosberg incident looks different.

[ringo]

Iotar Nico had no chancing of catching Lewis if they kept lewis on A 1 stop. Look at Max and Kimi's pace.
Hamilton had an easy win with the 1 stop strategy.
He did not take much life out of the tyres keeping a 2 second gap behind nico, and surely would have been able to prevent Nico on fresh supersofts from closing a 22 second gap in 15 laps with traffic and a fast ferrari and redbull in between.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Nico Rosberg, "Lewis turned in and caused the collision. I'm gutted"
What it really means..... "I was going straight, there was no TURN there on the circuit and suddenly, Lewis turned into me and caused collision. I'm GUTTERED".

[GrizzleBoy]

16:58
Mercedes have delayed Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton's scheduled media briefing this evening.

We understand that, as of ten minutes ago, the Merc duo were still in front of the stewards.

[ringo]

Nico has brought this on themselves by not respecting Mercedes wishes and not being able to race cleanly. He has defended and attacked aggressively which has resulted in many points lost. Well done to Manor for scoring a point.

[GrandAxe]

both have been called to the steward for allegedly causing a collision, and Nico also for breaching the "code of driving conduct"

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... nformation

Very interesting that no decisions have been made this long after the incident, as well as fresh investigations flagged up against Hamilton after the race.

Will be interesting if Nico gets nothing for both instances, as well as the fact that Lewis has no reprimand chances left.

This is what the FIA says concerning Lewis:

Alleged causing a collision by car 6 with car 44 in turn 2 at 15:29

The defining phrase is "collision BY car 6", so Lewis is only being called to give his thoughts on why car 6 collided with his car. If anything, the FIA's choice of words already establishes Nico's guilt; but who knows, especially as French (not English) is basically the FIA's first language?

[Fulcrum]

Who suggested the crowd ? I said about the track side commentators blaming Lewis. I think every sky presenter/commentator blamed Nico. Not just Ted. Ted was sticking it to Toto to try and get more info from him. Where are you watching from ?

I'm not talking about the ending. I'm 100% in the Rosberg was clumsy camp, and Hamilton did well to get out of this alive - win deserved.

I'm commenting on Ted's comments during the middle of the race where Rosberg was in front of Hamilton (by 2 seconds) and Ted was suggesting that Mercedes needed to switch them otherwise it would be 'unfair'.

Fair enough I didnt realise you were talking about that mid race comment. My bad, apologies .

It's 100% fine. Lots going on here, and people obviously happy/apoplectic concerning the result which I feel is partially Mercedes fault anyway (bad strategy, compounded by Rosberg exercising poor judgement).

[Fulcrum]

Luckily we know what running someone off the road at that corner and outbraking oneself actually looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSipCiyVucY

Is this what Rosberg did? No penalties for the above incident either.

Oh, please don't show me videos that feature compelling cars and orgasmic sounds. I've not yet recovered from the breakup.

And compelling drivers.

Ducks for cover.

[GrizzleBoy]

both have been called to the steward for allegedly causing a collision, and Nico also for breaching the "code of driving conduct"

http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-o ... nformation

Very interesting that no decisions have been made this long after the incident, as well as fresh investigations flagged up against Hamilton after the race.

Will be interesting if Nico gets nothing for both instances, as well as the fact that Lewis has no reprimand chances left.

This is what the FIA says concerning Lewis:

Alleged causing a collision by car 6 with car 44 in turn 2 at 15:29

The defining phrase is "collision BY car 6", so Lewis is only being called to give his thoughts on why car 6 collided with his car. If anything, the FIA's choice of words already establishes Nico's guilt; but who knows, especially as French (not English) is basically the FIA's first language?

Ah, I didn't pick that up actually. Good spot.

So no reprimand for Lew then (maybe). Will still be interesting if Nico gets off scot free for both infringements.

[PlatinumZealot]

To suggest Mercedes favoured any of their drivers is laughable, to any ture fan it was obvious that Lewis started out with a planned 1 stop strategy and after Nico's start he was converted to a two stop strategy to jump the cars in front. Lewis stretched his first stint to allow the one stop but after Vettels blow out a more conservative two stop was then adopted. With both drivers still needing to pit Lewis as the defacto leader was given the first of the second stops to allow "the undercut" howver a slightly slower pitstop and a minor mistake on his out lap left Lewis behind Nico after the second stops. That's racing, it happens all the time if Lewis had not gone wide on his outlap he would have probably been ahead. I don't believe there was any malicous plan to sabotage one or the other. The final lap incident was unnecessary and may now mean Mercedes will call time on the "let them race" policy and insist on the status quo being maintained after the final pit stops if they are running 1&2 with no challenge from behind.

The drivers have brought this on themselves by not respecting Mercedes wishes and not being able to race cleanly. They both have defended and attacked aggressively which has resulted in many points lost. Well done to Manor for scoring a point.

Im sorry. Thats rubbish. Lewis should have stayed on the one stop. Mercedes screwed up by not pitting him a little earlier. See verstappen's strategy as proof that the one stop was more than enough to win. Just add whatever gap lewis had to max, to max's time and u will see.

[n_anirudh]

Did Lewis overtake under yellow flags.did see a replay..looks close...

[Phil]

I think he will. Mercedes will be adamant to solve this internally. I hope this will not be the case, but I fear it is what will be coming. I wonder if Hamilton is pressured to play nice in front of the stewards?

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Very interesting that no decisions have been made this long after the incident, as well as fresh investigations flagged up against Hamilton after the race.

Will be interesting if Nico gets nothing for both instances, as well as the fact that Lewis has no reprimand chances left.

This is what the FIA says concerning Lewis:

Alleged causing a collision by car 6 with car 44 in turn 2 at 15:29

The defining phrase is "collision BY car 6", so Lewis is only being called to give his thoughts on why car 6 collided with his car. If anything, the FIA's choice of words already establishes Nico's guilt; but who knows, especially as French (not English) is basically the FIA's first language?

Ah, I didn't pick that up actually. Good spot.

So no reprimand for Lew then (maybe). Will still be interesting if Nico gets off scot free for both infringements.

Why are they not looking into Nico driving a damaged car, which is dangerous thing to do?

[GPR-A duplicate2]

I think he will. Mercedes will be adamant to solve this internally. I hope this will not be the case, but I fear it is what will be coming. I wonder if Hamilton is pressured to play nice in front of the stewards?

This year, Nico is responsible for complete loss of points in Spain by, first, using wrong setting and then by going way off the racing line to push Lewis over, caushing major accident resulting in empty handed return. Now, he again breached the driving rules and drove into his team mate, almost certainly making them return empty handed again. What does Mercedes want to do now? Did they hurried in re-signing Nico again?

[PlatinumZealot]

Did Lewis overtake under yellow flags.did see a replay..looks close...

He did but rosbergs car was slowing down abnormally so it should be a legal pass.