2016 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team - Ferrari

[wickedz50]

The only bet he could take for next year, if he breaches the contract, is to substitute JB at McLaren

Was Alonso a fool to give up that Ferrari seat for an unknown journey?

I'm surprised you can still ask that question with a straight face. Alonso was absolutely right to leave Ferrari, the man who tried to convince him to stay just abandoned ship today. Ferrari are going backwards this year and McLaren look like the better place to be next year with its stability and especially if Honda find those extra horses.

Ferrari are not only going backward this year but its been the trend since some time now. Does the Ferrari board which approves so much money behind the team not interested in winning or are they just happy to only participate? where is the Italian pride? where is the accountability of that person who makes decisions? fans like us are hurt and we complain because the legacy is down to the earth because of few people who because of their position thinks they are invincible.
At the current state I do not think any person who is genuinely a genius /good at doing his job will be keen to join Ferrari, it wont be long Ferrari will be a regular middle tier team fighting with ? Manor or FI ?

[Sevach]

That's not good, just on the onset of a new batch of rules.
And it's too late to get anyone that will influence the 17 car in any significant way.

This may put Ferrari in catch up mode once again,a and that is a hard thing to do with limited testing.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Mu humble bet is that JA is going to Renault after some time.
On Ferrari - Key, Willis probably. Still, I see great potential lost with them, and what's worst, it's damaging for the brand.

[noname]

(...) Not much will change, again. Ferrari has endured lots of changes in the last years with little or no visible championship effect. They need engineers from rival teams, namely Mercedes. I'd bet any money that AMG has secured their people big time after investing around $600 million in RnD.

I doubt Ferrari is in a need to hire people, definitely not more than "standard" F1 movements happening all the time.

However they should look at what Mercedes did in preparation to 2014. They spent years builidng the team and infrastructure, they have not been doing shake-ups every year or so. Heck, they can even check how Ferrari rebuilt itself in the 90's when Todt, Brown etc. were there.

[RedNEO]

Was Alonso a fool to give up that Ferrari seat for an unknown journey?

I'm surprised you can still ask that question with a straight face. Alonso was absolutely right to leave Ferrari, the man who tried to convince him to stay just abandoned ship today. Ferrari are going backwards this year and McLaren look like the better place to be next year with its stability and especially if Honda find those extra horses.

Ferrari are not only going backward this year but its been the trend since some time now. Does the Ferrari board which approves so much money behind the team not interested in winning or are they just happy to only participate? where is the Italian pride? where is the accountability of that person who makes decisions? fans like us are hurt and we complain because the legacy is down to the earth because of few people who because of their position thinks they are invincible.
At the current state I do not think any person who is genuinely a genius /good at doing his job will be keen to join Ferrari, it wont be long Ferrari will be a regular middle tier team fighting with ? Manor or FI ?

Yes it's not looking good at the moment, I've been hurt by the amount of times I believed they would give Alonso a great car now that I just fully expect them to be mediocre. They surprised me a bit last year but I've remembered seasons similar to that with Alonso too.

[Vasconia]

Mu humble bet is that JA is going to Renault after some time.
On Ferrari - Key, Willis probably. Still, I see great potential lost with them, and what's worst, it's damaging for the brand.

I almost take it for granted. Now now but in 2017 he will join Renault for sure. He knows the team, he can work in England, everything suits him better.

[Powy]

It has been mentioned before, but for those who missed it:
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/758213158267916288 The question is who will replace James Allison?
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/7 ... 9929580544 And where will James Allison go, to Renault?

[ripper]

On some italian sites I've read Bob Bell as a possible substitute.

[flickerf1]

It has been mentioned before, but for those who missed it:

https://twitter.com/autosport/status/758213158267916288

The question is who will replace James Allison?

https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/7 ... 9929580544

And where will James Allison go, to Renault?

I definitely think he'll be going to Renault. Mercedes and McLaren would obviously try to get him as well. If Merc got where would they put him though? They have Aldo Costa and Geoff Willis. Could he possibly fill the role left by Bob Bell? McLaren have Peter Prodromou, so they seem pretty set there, though an extra aero mind definitely wouldn't hurt. All in all. It's up to him.

[bill shoe]

The question is who will replace James Allison?

I think the new technical director will be either Sergio Marchionne or Maurizio Arrivabene. They've both emphasized holding people responsible for their success or lack thereof, and they've fired pretty much everyone else. Only question is which of them will be the number one driver when they take over that responsibility too.

[Fulcrum]

My take on these options.


Newey - they've tried, without success.

Marshall - Red Bull career man, and probably would prefer to remain in the UK.

Lowe - probably locked up at Mercedes; would be put on gardening leave anyway if he chose to leave.

Costa - left Ferrari for Mercedes; I doubt this move is viable or desirable to either party.

Willis - possible, although he has frequently been hired in a supporting role to Adrian Newey, so I wonder about his pedigree to lead.

Owen - if they could get him, one of the better options, albeit less well known.

Symonds - another decent option, but possibly too old.

Key - seems like the strongest candidate on paper. Already familiar with Italian culture, has a good history of innovative design, and probably has an understanding of Ferrari architecture already considering Torro Rosso use their engine.

Green - doesn't strike me as a realistic option. He's competent, but there's no history of significant success on his CV anywhere.

Bell - long Renault association; unlikely to move again given recent work history.

Chester - has stuck through heaps of sh*t at Renault, Lotus, Renault. Probably a one-team man, and I don't think he's the technical vissionary Ferrari need.

Morris - not senior enough? Don't know enough about him, but doesn't seem as compelling a choice as others mentioned.

Podromou - probably locked down at McLaren.

Goss - I'm not convinced by this guy at all. Unfortunately I can't see past the MP4-21


If it were possible, poaching Newey would be a real coup. That's not going to happen though. Of the realistic options, James Key seems like the obvious choice.

[Jolle]

Why not Byrne as an interim until they got the senior management sorted and have a long term plan?

[Sevach]

Costa - left Ferrari for Mercedes; I doubt this move is viable or desirable to either party.

Was fired from Ferrari, found employment in Mercedes would be more accurate.

As for Goss, he was responsible for the championship winning MP4-23 wasn't he?

[mantikos]

My take on these options.


Willis - possible, although he has frequently been hired in a supporting role to Adrian Newey, so I wonder about his pedigree to lead.

If it were possible, poaching Newey would be a real coup. That's not going to happen though. Of the realistic options, James Key seems like the obvious choice.

Isn't he at Merc as well?

[Fulcrum]

My take on these options.


Willis - possible, although he has frequently been hired in a supporting role to Adrian Newey, so I wonder about his pedigree to lead.

If it were possible, poaching Newey would be a real coup. That's not going to happen though. Of the realistic options, James Key seems like the obvious choice.

Isn't he at Merc as well?

He is. Another case of gardening leave, if he were hired, I'm sure.