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Pierce89 wrote:
MrCelroy wrote:Looks kinda weird seeing it so empty. Regarding the sponsor logos I mean.
That Nose has 1 less sticker than before, that's all
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So was Ocon faster than Wehrlein???? Just curious to know

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Samraj_official wrote:So was Ocon faster than Wehrlein???? Just curious to knowImage
Haha, I guess many of us were fooled after FP1.

But, no, FP1 was just a glory run; he improved way too much there at the end compared to his runs on other tyres and compared to the earlier gaps to Wehrlein.

From FP2 on, it was a steady 0.9s between the two which came down to about 0.5s in qualifying. In any case, Wehrlein was much quicker. The gap should come down further as Ocon gains experience though.

As for the car - to avoid being entirely off-topic - it should have its best outing in Monza to date, considering how slippery it is in general. Even their default aero setup has either not too much downforce and/or excellent efficiency figures. At Monza of all places, however, they may trim out some wing and it has the potential to upset the car balance and actually deteriorate performance - they haven't run this car in any other aero package apart from maximum downforce so far.
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Atticus wrote:
Samraj_official wrote:So was Ocon faster than Wehrlein???? Just curious to knowImage
As for the car - to avoid being entirely off-topic - it should have its best outing in Monza to date, considering how slippery it is in general. Even their default aero setup has either not too much downforce and/or excellent efficiency figures. At Monza of all places, however, they may trim out some wing and it has the potential to upset the car balance and actually deteriorate performance - they haven't run this car in any other aero package apart from maximum downforce so far.
Hm, Manor... Always among the best in terms of top speed, but will that be enough for Monza? Im not really sure that they will bring new wings just for one track, as they had to focus early on 2017 if they want to stay ahead of Sauber next year, so that would be a waste of resources. But man id love to see them in low df configuration, they would probably upset some of the bigger teams, McHonda, Toro Rosso...

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Drica wrote:
Atticus wrote:
Samraj_official wrote:So was Ocon faster than Wehrlein???? Just curious to knowImage
As for the car - to avoid being entirely off-topic - it should have its best outing in Monza to date, considering how slippery it is in general. Even their default aero setup has either not too much downforce and/or excellent efficiency figures. At Monza of all places, however, they may trim out some wing and it has the potential to upset the car balance and actually deteriorate performance - they haven't run this car in any other aero package apart from maximum downforce so far.
Hm, Manor... Always among the best in terms of top speed, but will that be enough for Monza? Im not really sure that they will bring new wings just for one track, as they had to focus early on 2017 if they want to stay ahead of Sauber next year, so that would be a waste of resources. But man id love to see them in low df configuration, they would probably upset some of the bigger teams, McHonda, Toro Rosso...
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Interesting change to the nose-mounted cameras - moving from inline with the wing to raised above, does this not increase downforce?

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dodds_turbo wrote:Interesting change to the nose-mounted cameras - moving from inline with the wing to raised above, does this not increase downforce?
As far as I know, teams treat them as "aero-neutral" component. however I believe there should be a little of gain as the higher it put at the more clean air it can reach...
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mbchc wrote:
dodds_turbo wrote:Interesting change to the nose-mounted cameras - moving from inline with the wing to raised above, does this not increase downforce?
As far as I know, teams treat them as "aero-neutral" component. however I believe there should be a little of gain as the higher it put at the more clean air it can reach...

Can you show technically?
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mycadcae wrote:
mbchc wrote:
dodds_turbo wrote:Interesting change to the nose-mounted cameras - moving from inline with the wing to raised above, does this not increase downforce?
As far as I know, teams treat them as "aero-neutral" component. however I believe there should be a little of gain as the higher it put at the more clean air it can reach...

Can you show technically?
I forgot there was a thread, one of us suggested the placement of nose cameras can achieve teams a bit of air flow... But my apologies I couldn't find that page for reference

However , I've got this

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Any pics from Singapore?
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Also, Manor started work on the 2017 car way back in January.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... in-january
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MrCelroy wrote:Also, Manor started work on the 2017 car way back in January.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... in-january
and many teams started in 2015! nothing unusual as most teams prepare well in advance, especially with new regs.

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aral wrote:
MrCelroy wrote:Also, Manor started work on the 2017 car way back in January.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... in-january
and many teams started in 2015! nothing unusual as most teams prepare well in advance, especially with new regs.

Whent the regs weren't even close to being ready (in 2015)?