2017 AMG Mercedes F1 Team - Mercedes

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GPR-A wrote:Mercedes has brought for themselves a unique sort of headache. They have hired a driver, who is contract bound for 2018 with another team.
Did I miss something? I thought that was pure speculation.
Would be strange of Toto to tell the media "Bottas can earn his seat for 2018" when Bottas has already signed a contract with Renault (for example) and that's already officially confirmed.

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I guess Toto would assume that if Mercedes continue to win Bottas would want to stay with them, so he needs to prove he is good enough to be retained for further seasons.
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skoop wrote:
GPR-A wrote:Mercedes has brought for themselves a unique sort of headache. They have hired a driver, who is contract bound for 2018 with another team.
Did I miss something? I thought that was pure speculation.
Would be strange of Toto to tell the media "Bottas can earn his seat for 2018" when Bottas has already signed a contract with Renault (for example) and that's already officially confirmed.
He needs to motivate him, make him believe that he isn't just a stop gap and that if he does well enough Merc would be willing to buy out his Renault contract?

Merc won't want him "shutting down" in the 2nd half of the season

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Can someone please post a source for Bottas/2018/Renault?

Didn't think so.

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dans79 wrote:
ME4ME wrote:
Reason for this all is, like i stated previously, that the 2017 cars and tyres will be significantly different.
Yea, I pretty strongly disagree with this. None of the underlying design fundamentals have changed. The only thing that's different is the dimensions have changed.
The available downforce and extra mechanical grip will allow teams to all take a much larger departure from the norm this year. In 2009 the teams traditional year to year characteristics(idiosyncrasies?) were totally thrown out. Also, if any teams have to fundamentally change their suspension systems, they might be forced onto a totally different avenue of aero development based on the fact that pitch sensitivity may become a much larger problem,

I truly believe there's every possibility of another 2009.
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SR71 wrote:Can someone please post a source for Bottas/2018/Renault?

Didn't think so.

The source is GPR-A, completely reliable source.

Everyone knows this.
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Pierce89 wrote: In 2009 the teams traditional year to year characteristics(idiosyncrasies?) were totally thrown out.
That's not a good example.
  • The FIA forced the removal of all the special aero elements.
  • The front wing wasn't just resized, They where drastically simplified conceptually (FIA).
  • Lets not forget the driver controllable front wing flaps (that no one really benefited from)
  • The DD was allowed
The DD, was probably the biggest differentiator, because it was a completely new research area.
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dans79 wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: In 2009 the teams traditional year to year characteristics(idiosyncrasies?) were totally thrown out.
That's not a good example.
  • The FIA forced the removal of all the special aero elements.
  • The front wing wasn't just resized, They where drastically simplified conceptually (FIA).
  • Lets not forget the driver controllable front wing flaps (that no one really benefited from)
  • The DD was allowed
The DD, was probably the biggest differentiator, because it was a completely new research area.
We dont know yet if its a bad example or not. The huge diffuser volume increase alone might be enough to totally transform wing design philosophy. Then you add the fact they've increased mechanical grip massively and moved the tires further from the chassis. The elements are there for a massive shake up, but whether we get it or not remains to be seen.
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"At least for this year..."

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I'm not quite sure how Valtteri will go next year ?
There's so many variables that it's hard to predict.

The regulation changes might help even things out, but as has been mentioned Lewis' time, results, and presence within the team should still give him a slight upper hand.

One thing I can't discount, is Bottas is moving to a car that without doubt will be a massive upgrade from the Williams.

This to me is the most important thing because confidence is an incredible motivator.

Just look at Max this season.
He might be the next coming according to some, but the step up to a much more well oiled team and machine allowed him to shine with his new car quite quickly.

Same with Daniel Ricciardo's move to Red Bull.
Say whatever you want about Seb' having an off year, but Dan smashed him !

I believe it's much, much easier for a guy who's been in a midfield team to get to grips with a car that is way above anything he's driven to date.

If Bottas had stayed with Williams, (as much as I love them, they're my favourite team), I reckon he would have stagnated in a year or two, but first few laps in the Merc' are going put a massive smile on his face.

If he has the natural talent some think he does, there might be a few upsets this coming season because he's going to be on such a high that only driving the best car you've had to date can give you :wink:

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Anyone got the track schedule for Silverstone over the next month? The noise one. Can't find it. Looking for "F1 team filming day" :D
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Wow.

Down voted for thinking Bottas will do ok.

I guess there's a frightened Hamilton fan lurking among us lol !

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More likely the "Dan Smashed Him" bit. No doubt a Ferrari fan.

Now this will be down vote in

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