2017 Singapore Grand Prix - 1st lap crash discussion

[PlatinumZealot]

Vettel with his aggressive starts... a straight line would have seen him clear of damage but he had to block Verstappen. Hamilton leaves Singapore extending his championship lead, the race that was to be Mercedes' worst performance.

This is always gets Vettel. He has a bit of schumacher in his blood! Hamilton is more level headed in wheel to wheel situations. That is what he will win the WDC.

[Vanja #66]

Max announced yesterday that he'll give everything to overtaking Vettel at the start and he did. Vettel is not entitled to switch to the inside line and defend his position and Max is entitled to steer right into Kimi when he saw Kimi is getting him as well? Seriously?

[Phil]

...not when a car is there? Duh...

[frank12]

i don´t think this was vettels fault. there was more than enough space between ves ans vet. and vet was clearly ahead. just watch the on bord.

https://streamable.com/ksh94

[Vanja #66]

...not when a car is there? Duh...

Seb was in front of Max the whole time, check the video again... That kid has been doing this as soon as he got into Red Bull, trying to win in the first lap.

[Just_a_fan]

Verstappen has ruined his and Ferraris race, for me Its pretty clear. No penalty because Its the start.

Verstappen drove in a straight line. Vettel moved across. How is that Verstappen's fault?

[Restomaniac]

...not when a car is there? Duh...

Seb was in front of Max the whole time, check the video again... That kid has been doing this as soon as he got into Red Bull, trying to win in the first lap.

I struggle to understand how some STILL don't understand what 'in front' actually is?

[TAG]

Easy: wet/damp equals risk vs reward.

Are you suggesting Lewis Hamilton is risking more than Ricciardo?
That's quite interesting.

To a certain degree, yes. Skill and confidence will also be part of that equation, obviously.

The one skill Ricciardo lacks is wet car handling. Where Max seems to excel. Hamilton is a masterful in the wet, would have loved to see him up against Max today. Vettel's exhuberance robbed us of some great racing today.

[Just_a_fan]

By track position, he got the worst start of the top 4. He was beat into the corner, and behind. He should have yielded.

Absurd!

Absurd is blaming a 4 time champion from defending his position, instead of the 1 win driver who never checked his left mirror...

The 1 win driver had nowhere to go because, having checked his left mirror, he saw it full of Kimi. The 4 time champion moved to block a driver who had nowhere to go.

[zeph]

To me the collision on lap 1 looks like Vettel's fault. Poor judgement.

I originally assumed it was on Verstappen, but the replay is clear.

Still, I'd view that as a racing incident. Vettel's punishment is no points.

[Zynerji]

Absurd!

Absurd is blaming a 4 time champion from defending his position, instead of the 1 win driver who never checked his left mirror...

The 1 win driver had nowhere to go because, having checked his left mirror, he saw it full of Kimi. The 4 time champion moved to block a driver who had nowhere to go.

That's what the other pedal is for, and where the true immaturity exposes itself.

[Zynerji]

The 1 win driver had nowhere to go because, having checked his left mirror, he saw it full of Kimi. The 4 time champion moved to block a driver who had nowhere to go.

That's what the other pedal is for, and where the true immaturity exposes itself.

So Max says and the pictures show he was backing out but you are questioning him using the other pedal.

He was beat well before the first corner, and he knew it.

Maybe he'd finish more races of he acted upon such information.

[Vanja #66]

Watching the replays verstappen clearly starts to steer into raikkonen way before vettel starts to come over to his side, while raikkonen starts to steer right into verstappen after he gets half way ahead of verstappen. 3 way racing incident imo.

https://streamable.com/nmrn6

I honestly don't see Kimi steering into Max here. Look at his onboard, it's best seen there...

[jknights]

Sorry Ferrari Twitter-twat feed is head up ass.
How could a person sandwiched between two cars be the cause of the problem when Vettel steers left from start and Kimi comes from left and forces Verstappen right.
Get real.... Be realistic and rational.

Vettel will possibly get a penalty from the stewards and may miss a race if he has too many points on his license!
Shame as that is equivalent of a DNF.
We need a real challenge for the championship not a runaway!.

[foxmulder_ms]

My least favorite two drivers of the grid took each other out... haha. good day