Toro Rosso STR13 Speculation Thread

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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:13 pm
HPD wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:47 pm
https://twitter.com/ToroRosso/status/966280959099396096

Journalists also see a predominant white color :?:
It stutters on upshifts just like last year’s McLaren. NOT a good sign, implying Honda STILL have not solved their vibration issues.
Mercedes have the same noise on upshifts, I don't think it's something you can completely avoid just minimise its impact.

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mrluke wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:01 am
ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:13 pm
HPD wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:47 pm
https://twitter.com/ToroRosso/status/966280959099396096

Journalists also see a predominant white color :?:
It stutters on upshifts just like last year’s McLaren. NOT a good sign, implying Honda STILL have not solved their vibration issues.
Mercedes have the same noise on upshifts, I don't think it's something you can completely avoid just minimise its impact.
Depend on how aggressive the shifting set up, it cost merc transmission failure in 2016. I think this brand New colaboration need few things to be solved together, so they try as aggressive as possible so that they could pick up starting point. Not sure about the aero, but i think in first test we would see brand New wing and bargeboard. The livery of Last year car already stunning, no need to change it

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Looks more like the old STR10 nose with the hole you seen in the center of the STR13's nosecone.

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yeah but MCL32 nose had honda on it :D
The MCL32 nose looks more a straight line with a clear kink at the top of the monocoque while the STR10 has a gradual curve. But looks like a slot at the tip.

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Flying JPS Lotus wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:48 am
Looks more like the old STR10 nose with the hole you seen in the center of the STR13's nosecone.

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img ... -str10.jpg
whoa, even the airbox looks the same
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Given rumours that TR is "1 month behind the schedule" posted in the forum.

Maybe they decided to run 2017 car (just fixed for regulations) during barcelona tests - to have pure comparison between Honda&Renault engines and reevaluate/confirm aero simulations
Working to bring "real" 2018 chassis for Melbourne

Does that make sense?

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what year car can they freely test? if so, the STR10 testing would make sense;

they have ALL the data on the original STR10.
they have all the data on the 2017 STR - regarding fat tires, wings, etc.
have somebody simulate and work out the data in mounting 2017+ spec material on a STR10.
and have somebody work out a way to plant the honda engine in there.

use it as a testbed for testing the honda engine.

keep developing and testing the STR13 untill the last moment possible, melbourne.

possible?
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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They cant test a current engine though can they ?
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Manoah2u wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:56 am
Flying JPS Lotus wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:48 am
jagunx51 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:12 am


MCL32 nose

https://cdn-5.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -mcl32.jpg
Looks more like the old STR10 nose with the hole you seen in the center of the STR13's nosecone.

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img ... -str10.jpg
whoa, even the airbox looks the same
u think? 13 looks wider & flatter to me

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Sigh. The Honda blame has already begun and they havent even tested yet! And you have a Mercrdes breaking down after a short distance and no one bats an eyelid.
Not driving a Mercedes? Work harder!

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm
Sigh. The Honda blame has already begun and they havent even tested yet! And you have a Mercrdes breaking down after a short distance and no one bats an eyelid.
What do you mean ?!

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restless wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:46 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm
Sigh. The Honda blame has already begun and they havent even tested yet! And you have a Mercrdes breaking down after a short distance and no one bats an eyelid.
What do you mean ?!
The W09 stopped when it first left the garage. Bottas was pushed back in and was on his way shortly afterwards.

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SparkyAMG wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:57 pm
restless wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:46 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:09 pm
Sigh. The Honda blame has already begun and they havent even tested yet! And you have a Mercrdes breaking down after a short distance and no one bats an eyelid.
What do you mean ?!
The W09 stopped when it first left the garage. Bottas was pushed back in and was on his way shortly afterwards.
Probably tripped a sensor or something really minor...nothing big to report

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the EDGE wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 am
Manoah2u wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:56 am
Flying JPS Lotus wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:48 am


Looks more like the old STR10 nose with the hole you seen in the center of the STR13's nosecone.

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/static/img ... -str10.jpg
whoa, even the airbox looks the same
u think? 13 looks wider & flatter to me
I mean obviously the exact design has changed a little from 3 years ago but the idea stays the same. Their new nose seems an obvious iteration of those they've used in the past like on the STR10 & 11 before dropping it for a Merc style nose on the 12.
"Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!"

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Manoah2u wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:14 am
what year car can they freely test? if so, the STR10 testing would make sense;

they have ALL the data on the original STR10.
they have all the data on the 2017 STR - regarding fat tires, wings, etc.
have somebody simulate and work out the data in mounting 2017+ spec material on a STR10.
and have somebody work out a way to plant the honda engine in there.

use it as a testbed for testing the honda engine.

keep developing and testing the STR13 untill the last moment possible, melbourne.

possible?
It makes absolutely zero sense. The car in the photos is a clear evolution of the STR12.
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