2018 Le Mans 24 hours

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RZS10 wrote:
19 Jun 2018, 02:16
Does anyone have motorsport prime and could give us a tl:dr of this?

https://www.motorsport.com/lemans/news/ ... f-1046707/

It's probably just a shitty clickbait title and they write "alonso, better pace on avg. and better luck with slow zones overall" ... lol
you don't need it in this day and age. @TheBPillar has all the data easily available.
[media]https://twitter.com/thebpillar/status/1 ... 2926383105[/media]
and yes, it seems he was the fastest on average (he took the fastest 25 laps). And with all the Toyota drivers having about the same number of laps, this seems pretty convincing.

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Looks like he wasn't only the fastest on average but also easily the most consistent driver of the toyota bunch

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But didn't Alonso run mostly at night time? AFAIK, the more preferable lower track temps should have helped him in that case. I wonder about the tires they use (prime/option); do the teams opt to run certain sets at certain points in the race, and could that influence these average lap times too?

Nevertheless, I was still quite impressed by Alonso. Endurance racing is quite different from single seater racing, and as a rookie he did a tremendous job.
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Noetiepoerker26 wrote:But didn't Alonso run mostly at night time? AFAIK, the more preferable lower track temps should have helped him in that case. I wonder about the tires they use (prime/option); do the teams opt to run certain sets at certain points in the race, and could that influence these average lap times too?

Nevertheless, I was still quite impressed by Alonso. Endurance racing is quite different from single seater racing, and as a rookie he did a tremendous job.
He was the best at switching on the tyres at night of the Toyota drivers. During the day the was overdriving the tyres
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Noetiepoerker26 wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 14:45
But didn't Alonso run mostly at night time? AFAIK, the more preferable lower track temps should have helped him in that case. I wonder about the tires they use (prime/option); do the teams opt to run certain sets at certain points in the race, and could that influence these average lap times too?
Is the penalty of running at night - difficult to see the circuit, tired drivers around you etc., more or less than the benefit from lower temps? I have no idea but I would think that driving in the dark must have an adverse impact on lap times.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 19:08
Noetiepoerker26 wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 14:45
But didn't Alonso run mostly at night time? AFAIK, the more preferable lower track temps should have helped him in that case. I wonder about the tires they use (prime/option); do the teams opt to run certain sets at certain points in the race, and could that influence these average lap times too?
Is the penalty of running at night - difficult to see the circuit, tired drivers around you etc., more or less than the benefit from lower temps? I have no idea but I would think that driving in the dark must have an adverse impact on lap times.
One would think. However: Cooler, denser air at night. Perhaps an aero benefit along with tire temps. In terms of visual processing, maybe there's a benefit to only being able to see what's in the headlights. No peripheral stimulation/distraction.

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As a couple of drivers pointed out, at night it is easier to develop what they called tunnel vision. IE less distractions.
Easier to get into the "zone".
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https://mobile.twitter.com/lachnar/stat ... 8478757890

Lap times for the best x laps per driver in the comments, in several graphs

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Where did the "he had issues during the day" or "he was overheating the tyres" story come from? Is it because he had that issue at Spa?

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Judging by that 'heatmap' he was still quick and consistent if i'm reading it correctly (the thicker the faster, the less up/down the more consistent)

source: https://twitter.com/thebpillar/status/1 ... 2935922688

And if you look at what Hollus posted above from twitter user lachnar and maybe even click through some of the graphs it shows he was in a class of his own.

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I don't know about the graphs but from the onboards he looked to be very very smooth.
Always good for tire wear.
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hollus wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 23:16
https://mobile.twitter.com/lachnar/stat ... 8478757890

Lap times for the best x laps per driver in the comments, in several graphs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df_QRIsXcAAC1PK?format=jpg
This is what I call a self-explanatory chart :wtf:

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RZS10 wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 00:21
Where did the "he had issues during the day" or "he was overheating the tyres" story come from?
Andres125sx wrote:
17 Jun 2018, 19:05
siskue2005 wrote:
17 Jun 2018, 16:09
RZS10 wrote:
17 Jun 2018, 15:57
I'd like to see laptimes from the night stints from last year and 2016, Alonso was just as quick (or even quicker) during the night than the others during the day and i'd like to know how it looked in previous races - because right now it looks like he brought them back into the race by clawing back 1:40min in 2.5h of running
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df293hDWAAA1T-M.jpg
Wow, an average of 4,6 seconds/lap faster on a 20 laps stint :o =D> =D>


He said at the tv he´s more aggressive on the tires compared to his teammates, so he has more overheating problems at day, but at night he can make the tires work better so he was able to attack and reduce the gap. Even so, 4.6 seconds faster for 20 laps is impressive

Anycase, having more overheating problems does not mean he was not fast at day

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LOL, found this on autosport forums

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Was big on downforce. Tough to pass, but a hell of a slipstream. Drivers disappointed with the engine performance, though. Kept shouting, "QE2 engine! QE2 engine!"

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FrukostScones wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 10:22
LOL, found this on autosport forums
That's one of the best things I've seen for a while =D>
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