tveleckovik wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:53 am
I have a 120 km home-work-home round trip every working day. With fuel prices at 15,8 SEK (don't even get me started...) and the 8,4 l/100km that my hot hatch gets that means I pay 3200 SEK for fuel every month! So I've been thinking of leasing something more economical and lately I've been comparing two Renaults, the Clio and the ZOE.
A Clio with 75 hp would cost me 80200 SEK (53600 for the car and 26600 for fuel) over 3 years and 30000 km. A Clio with a 90 hp would cost me 103300 SEK (81000 for the car, 22300 for fuel). This assumes the fuel prices will stay where they are. A ZOE with a 40 kWh battery would cost me 109100 SEK total (107600 for the car and 1500 for electricity). The ZOE cost includes the 60000 SEK bonus the government gives people that choose eco-friendly cars.
So even with insane taxes on fuel, high road taxes for ICE-powered vehicles and a 60000 SEK bonus for the EV, the EV is still more expensive than a comparable ICE car!
So are they viable? I'd say no, not without the government "helping out". They will be, in time, but atm no.
Doing some more numbers base on yours:
Clio 75hp: 26,600 for 3 year of fuel is 8,867 SEK/year
ZOE: 1,500/3 = 500 SEK/year
8,867-500 =8,367 SEK/year saving for the ZOE compared to the Clio 75hp
After third year (your numbers), there´s a difference of 28,900SEK, so that divided by 8,367 equals 3.45, wich is the years remaining to amortize the ZOE
So if the ZOE will be amortized between 6th and 7th year. From that point you´ll be saving 8367 SEK/year, or around 30,000 SEK if you own it for 10 years wich is what batteries last more or less
Not extremely tempting, but I´m glad you did the numbers because it´s better than I was assuming. Your daily trips are much longer than mine tough
So yes, basically I agree price is still the problem to solve, specially when you think about how much easier to manufacture are EVs. But I don´t think it´s a matter of governments helping out, I think manufacturers prices must go down drastically. I´m sure their net benefit for each EV is huge compared to any car with an ICE, but that´s normal since the sales are also a small fraction compared to the same ICE, so basically it´s a matter of time.
Then, at some point, there will be much cheaper batteries