2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

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henry wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 21:28
DiogoBrand wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 18:36
Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 18:21
Agreed. No comparison. The closest I can think of off the top of my head was Schuie trying to put Rubens in the wall to prevent him overtaking. That would have been a big crash.

Vettel crashing in to Hamilton was nothing compared to the idiot grabbing another rider's brake lever.
I'm sorry, but as stupid and dangerous as Michael's manouver was, I don't think it was as serious as intentionally crashing into someone else under a Safety Car just to vent some frustration.
Just like drag the danger rises exponentially with speed.
Michael's manouver may have been more dangerous, I agree. But at least he had the excuse of defending against an overtake, while Vettel was just being a prick and banging cars to show how irrational he is when things don't go his way.

Anyway, enough with the OT already.

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Ducati and Honda learned from Yamaha by taming their MotoGP machines to mimic the smoother riding character of the M1.


https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/90520 ... ned-yamaha


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The little prick retired today, so no more Fenati \:D/
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He may still have a future in e-sports.

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etusch wrote:
12 Sep 2018, 08:46
Ducati and Honda learned from Yamaha by taming their MotoGP machines to mimic the smoother riding character of the M1.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/90520 ... ned-yamaha
https://youtu.be/oEXUrO5wYcE
Taming in what sense? Can't tell from the article. There are 'big-bang' sceptics on this forum; I point you to a few of TC's posts:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=757250&hilit=bang#p757250
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=753523&hilit=bang#p753523
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18874&p=750013&hilit=bang#p750013
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24125&p=729177&hilit=bang#p729177

Essentially, how could individual firing moments be felt by the tire contact patch? Regardless of how they are spaced. Driveline elasticity should absorb this. Beneficial effects, if any, of variations upon crank throw angle may have more to do with intake and/or exhaust flow dynamics.

digitalrurouni wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 17:06
Grabbing the brakes is the equivalent of Seb bashing in to Lewis @ Baku. Still amazed to this day how he didn't get a race ban.
What's your opinion of brake testing?

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Brake testing should equally be penalized. Afaik no brake testing took place. On another note is it called brake testing or brake checking?

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roon wrote:
13 Sep 2018, 03:22

Taming in what sense? Can't tell from the article. There are 'big-bang' sceptics on this forum; I point you to a few of TC's posts:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=757250&hilit=bang#p757250
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=753523&hilit=bang#p753523
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18874&p=750013&hilit=bang#p750013
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24125&p=729177&hilit=bang#p729177

Essentially, how could individual firing moments be felt by the tire contact patch? Regardless of how they are spaced. Driveline elasticity should absorb this. Beneficial effects, if any, of variations upon crank throw angle may have more to do with intake and/or exhaust flow dynamics.
It is not about taming, they achieved almost perfect throttle response giving the riders great confidence in controlling the rear tyre. But it has limitations on peak power.

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But yamaha doesn't look low from point of power.

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AFAIK, Yamaha's performance problem stems from the DORNA mandated dumbing-down of the electronics suite,
& the fact that Yamaha stayed 'inhouse' for theirs, rather getting onboard with Magneti-Marelli - a mistake
- only now being rectified..
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

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tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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digitalrurouni wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 17:06
Grabbing the brakes is the equivalent of Seb bashing in to Lewis @ Baku.
First let me say Fenati's a complete Idiot,
as to your point, on less your going to take a baseball bat to another drivers head
I don't think there's an equivalent to grabbing someones front brake lever

perhaps you've never seen a successful attempt at this f**king gutless move

Niccolo Canepa track day Mugello 2013


lucky the ride only suffered a broken collar bone, fortunately that rider following them
didn't go head over heel after hitting that bike

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Canepa was charged for Manslaughter you know

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J.A.W. wrote:
15 Sep 2018, 02:51
AFAIK, Yamaha's performance problem stems from the DORNA mandated dumbing-down of the electronics suite,
& the fact that Yamaha stayed 'inhouse' for theirs, rather getting onboard with Magneti-Marelli - a mistake
- only now being rectified..
Closely related to the uneven firing order though.

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Never knew canepa did that! What is it with hot headed italians!!
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Real sad display in Q1 today with a whole gaggle of riders hanging about waiting to follow one of the top guys on a hot lap. It looked like at least both Lorenzo and Marquez had to abandon their first flyer because there was just no space. Iannone in particular was shamelessly shadowing Marquez the whole time he was on track. They didn't really complain in post q interviews but it looked pathetic.

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Lorenzo was riding a coiled viper. Big highside in the first corner
Always find the gap then use it.

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