Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Morteza » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:08 pm

atanatizante wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:06 pm
https://postimages.org/

Seems they copied Ferrari`s split rear brake duct fin ... it`s new for this race?
Good catch! The best thing for comparison I could find is this which is from Hungary, so I guess a new piece
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by jh199 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:52 am

I've just noticed that the flaps on the rear wing (the ones Mercedes have extended and Ferrari just added) look like they are moving air inboard. I had always assumed they promoted flow expansion by pointing outwards but these photos seem to beg to differ. Is there a reason Mercedes (and Ferrari and Mclaren) would want to lower the pressure differential at the back of the endplate? I would think it is to weaken the wingtip vortex but these flaps appear to be too far back for that.
Or is this just some sort of optical illusion I've fallen victim to?
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by roon » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:39 pm

jh199 wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:52 am
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Seems like they would reduce boundary layer size and reduce stall in yaw along the inside face of the endplates.

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Looks like they've got airflow going through the spokes.



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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by atanatizante » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:54 pm

Could someone do a picture with Lewis` car sitting on that flashing LCD podium? I just saw a new kinda batwing or something similar ... is that new for this race? On Sky he said they didn`t bring any update but it seems that there are at least those slits in the RW endplate ...
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by subcritical71 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:59 pm

apexcontrol wrote:
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apparently toto wold want 3 mercedes cars, he is putting it on the table next meeting.
so.......they now need 2 wingmans for hamilton ?
One for Verstappen to take out and the other to cover for the rest of the field :wtf:

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by atanatizante » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:00 pm

atanatizante wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:54 pm
Could someone do a picture with Lewis` car sitting on that flashing LCD podium? I just saw a new kinda batwing or something similar ... is that new for this race? On Sky he said they didn`t bring any update but it seems that there are at least those slits in the RW endplate ...
I did one but it`s a poor one ...

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by dans79 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:19 pm

roon wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:39 pm
jh199 wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:52 am
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Seems like they would reduce boundary layer size and reduce stall in yaw along the inside face of the endplates.

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Looks like they've got airflow going through the spokes.

https://twitter.com/JennieGow/status/10 ... 2961352705

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnDk6MwXcAEkOiY.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnDk6NEXgAEA-cc.jpg
I wonder if that could help increase airflow through the rims and us keep the rear tires cooler!

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by nevill3 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:43 pm

The extra raised bits on the rim are there to increase the heat sink effect of the rim to help with the management of the rear tyre temperatures according to Ted Kravitz
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by dans79 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:38 pm

nevill3 wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:43 pm
The extra raised bits on the rim are there to increase the heat sink effect of the rim to help with the management of the rear tyre temperatures according to Ted Kravitz
Yes I know, I was referring to rear wind end plate updates potentially being able to help increase that effect.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by algebraist » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:59 pm

Hello. Just registered after ghosting these forums for the last few years. I've some better quality screen grabs of the Mercedes after the race.

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Hopefully should give a better idea than the grainier grabs above. The intricacy of the aero on these cars gets bigger with every passing race.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by ringo » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:47 am

What is different about the car that made it better at the Singapore circuit?
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by simieski » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:20 am

So were the rear wheel heat sinks, on Hamilton's car at least, too effective? He said on team radio a few times in the race that the rears were on the cold side.
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by Big Tea » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:04 am

simieski wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:20 am
So were the rear wheel heat sinks, on Hamilton's car at least, too effective? He said on team radio a few times in the race that the rears were on the cold side.
Possibly due to him not having to push as much as they anticipated?
They were expecting to have to chase the Ferrari for most of the race
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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by zokipirlo » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:05 am

Guys, do you think is possible that Mercedes is doing some strange things with fuel pump. Some hidden liquid inside and injecting with fuel together? It seams strange that they had problem in Austria with that.

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Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

Post by wesley123 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:08 am

ringo wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:47 am
What is different about the car that made it better at the Singapore circuit?
The new rims are probably doing a good job. This years car is also very much aimed to fix the issues they had last year.

The fact that Ferrari were pretty bad around here does give a bit of a skewed view, I think.
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