2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by F1NAC » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:02 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:34 am
Sieper wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:39 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:45 pm
It would but Sauber and Haas would be under strict orders and probably ruin the show.
FI and Williams on the same. Perez did his best last race.
Perez was doing 100% what he was meant to be doing at that point. Fight anyone who doesn't drive a pink car.

The problem is when a Ferrari approaches a Haas or Sauber, they get out the way pretty damn quick. Force India and Williams still resist a Mercedes. Vettel pretty much has 5 team mates, to Hamilton's 1. So thats what would wreck a battle from the back between Lewis and Seb.
what on earth are you talking about?

Monaco? Ocon just casually slows down(not being lapped even!!) to let Hamilton through? Magnussen getting into the way of Kimi in Hockenheim resulting in Kimi losing position to Bottas.

Grosjean ruining Kimi's lap in Hungary etc....

Your comments are sometimes a complete joke.

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by Vasconia » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:36 am

tpe wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:43 pm
Vettel, again, has only one set of softs. What the...?
Lately Ferrari is going too aggressive with tyre choices. Japan will be another example, and so far is not working. It looks like a desperate move for me.

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by F1NAC » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:42 am

Vasconia wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:36 am
tpe wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:43 pm
Vettel, again, has only one set of softs. What the...?
Lately Ferrari is going too aggressive with tyre choices. Japan will be another example, and so far is not working. It looks like a desperate move for me.
well that choice was made 14 weeks ago. THey are probably relying on Vettel taking pole and then driving into distance (6,7 seconds ) like it was the case this season

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by dfegan358 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:34 am

yes i meant track should suit ferrari. pace this weekend will be interesting. since summer break true pace of each time has been hard to definitively determine. both merc and ferrari have strengths and come to the fore more at different tracks, i dont really think ferrari had much of a pace advantage that people made out., i think they were very evenly matched. we dont know vettels true pace at monza or in singapore in the race for various reasons.

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by Morteza » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:04 pm

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by NathanOlder » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:31 pm

F1NAC wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:02 am


what on earth are you talking about?

Monaco? Ocon just casually slows down(not being lapped even!!) to let Hamilton through? Magnussen getting into the way of Kimi in Hockenheim resulting in Kimi losing position to Bottas.

Grosjean ruining Kimi's lap in Hungary etc....

Your comments are sometimes a complete joke.
The Ocon moment was debunked right here

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13662 ... complaints

As for Magnussen, in Hockenheim, really ? in the damp conditions on slicks, in a 4 or 5 car battle =D> :lol:
At that point all the drivers were just trying to keep it pointing forward, it was only 2 or 3 seconds after that incident that Mag had a force india spinning in front of him as the conditions were that tricky! The last thing he was going to do was watch the cars behind him!

Grosjean in Hungary I dont recall, I assume you are talking about Qualifying ? Please remind me.

The fact remains that Haas and Sauber are in tighter/stronger relationships with their engine suppliers that Williams and Force India are.

So you are telling me that Force India and Williams help Mercedes on track ?
Sauber and Haas fight Ferrari like other teams do ?

Yeah ?

Or maybe you are just joking ? either way theres no need to start insulting is there.
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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by F1NAC » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:36 pm

Force India have shown that they will obey orders from the top. As for Sauber and Haas they didn't show on track that this tighter so call relationship means letting through Ferraris as soon as they pop in the mirrors

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by dans79 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:29 pm

F1NAC wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:36 pm
Force India have shown that they will obey orders from the top. As for Sauber and Haas they didn't show on track that this tighter so call relationship means letting through Ferraris as soon as they pop in the mirrors
Gro did a pretty good job of blocking Hamilton in Singapore!

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by TAG » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:52 pm

F1NAC wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:36 pm
Force India have shown that they will obey orders from the top. As for Sauber and Haas they didn't show on track that this tighter so call relationship means letting through Ferraris as soon as they pop in the mirrors
When Hamilton wins his 5th title, he'll have the FI and Williams drivers to thank then. :mrgreen:
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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by NathanOlder » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:48 pm

Yeah. And the Haas drivers
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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by iotar__ » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:54 pm

NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:48 pm
Yeah. And the Haas drivers
No yeah no :D . He has only
- A Mercedes driver: GB - sitting duck strategy switch team orders, Monza - strategy/moving chicane team orders, Germany - pure team orders
- and Ferrari drivers
to thank.

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by notsofast » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:51 pm

Red Bull expects to finish P5 and P6 in Sochi.

Wait, this just in. Red Bull will be replacing both engines. Both cars will start from the back. This now means that Red Bull expects to finish ... P5 and P6.

It certainly is a weird season when P5/P6 is the expected result, no matter how they qualify.

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by dans79 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:12 pm

sosic2121 wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:01 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:31 pm
The Ocon moment was debunked right here

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13662 ... complaints
https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/1548 ... in-monaco/
let's see Autosport, vs a lesser website using quotes that give absolutely no context..........

I'll side with Autosport, and I don't even like them!

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Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 28 - 30 September

Post by Sieper » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:41 pm

Lets not kid ourselves, the other teams that use the works engine move out of the way for works drivers as fast as they can, heck, even other marque drivers move out of the way most of the time (even when “fighting” for position).