I dont mean it wasn´t a good overtake but Schumacher was so slow at that moment. Look how the McLaren behind him wants to overtake him going left and right.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 17:34My favourite track ever!!
It was better when cars were able to chase each other, and specially when 130R was a proper corner where cars couldn´t go flat out, but still my favourite combination of different corners and straights in the calendar
Edit: Felt the need to watch Alonso-Schumacher overtake at 130R again, man I still feel the shock it was when watched it live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGdmWq4ooQo
From this one it looks easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuDokYf2u94
This track is quite hard with the tyres so the mediums could be a fine option for the race. Ferrari has only one so they can´t check it properly. They should have at least two in order to use it in FP.f1316 wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 18:47I don’t think Ferrari’s tyre choice has hurt them at all in the last few races - I think that’s a complete red herring.
In Singapore they chose not to use the soft in race - even though they had a set - not because they lacked running on it but because they aggressively (and mistakenly) thought they could jump Hamilton using US; if they had, they’d have counted on the lack of overtaking possibilities and/or a safety car (which does usually come) to allow Seb to hold on against a faster Hamilton.
In Russia, the plan would have worked fine using th softs to undercut (albeit, would have been better if they’d anticipated Bottas’ stop - as I explain in the Russia race thread) if Vettel hadn’t made a mistake, allowing Hamilton the chance to pass.
So their tyre choice was perfectly fine and I see no reason why it should affect them here; whether they’re fast is a different story but I expect the high amount of on throttle will suit them.
Not hurting and lucking into little damage are two separate things. I think Ferrari have been quite lucky to get away with some of their tire allocation choices this year in the sense that RedBull has been plagued by reliability and hasn't been a closer competitor. Same applies to Mercedes.
Ok but answer me this: when was the last time we had more than one stop in a race (other than for safety cars)?Phil wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 10:45Not hurting and lucking into little damage are two separate things. I think Ferrari have been quite lucky to get away with some of their tire allocation choices this year in the sense that RedBull has been plagued by reliability and hasn't been a closer competitor. Same applies to Mercedes.
Tire allocations are foremost a gamble. You can be aggressive and bank on a particular tire that may turn out to be wrong - or you lack the running time on the other tires and therefore lack data, or you can play it safe and bring a more balanced allocation that may give you options, however that may compromise your qualifying running.
Ferrari have gone aggressive and it may hurt them, or it may not. If and how, will depend on circumstance. Ferrari have also been in a pretty good position (hence them being aggressive) because their car is consistently good on most tires. Mercedes, at least earlier in the season, isn't. They've struggled on some compounds more so than others, so it makes sense that Mercedes is giving themselves more options for the race weekend. If they struggle on one tire, they have the option to use the other two during the race. This was the case on numerous occasions earlier in the season when Mercedes dictated their strategy by going with the two harder compounds during the race.
You never can tell with Vettel, he has put in some decent wet times in the past (notably with Toro Rosso), his problems this year only seem to stem from ebbing confidence against an unrelenting competitor.
That´s not because he was slow, but because Alonso pass forced him to take a poor line from the inside so he had to slow down more than usual at the corner, giving Kimi, whose line was not compromised, a chance.Vasconia wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 09:05I dont mean it wasn´t a good overtake but Schumacher was so slow at that moment. Look how the McLaren behind him wants to overtake him going left and right.Andres125sx wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 17:34My favourite track ever!!
It was better when cars were able to chase each other, and specially when 130R was a proper corner where cars couldn´t go flat out, but still my favourite combination of different corners and straights in the calendar
Edit: Felt the need to watch Alonso-Schumacher overtake at 130R again, man I still feel the shock it was when watched it live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGdmWq4ooQo
From this one it looks easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuDokYf2u94
Let me illustrate:f1316 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 12:05Ok but answer me this: when was the last time we had more than one stop in a race (other than for safety cars)?
I think Ferrari’s strategy is predicated on the fact that one set of mediums is plenty - particularly if they can qualify on the mid tyre, as has often been the case - and so their main focus has been to set the car up for pole and hence track position. The RB strategy from Vettel’s championship years, you might say
My interpretation is that Ferrari believe that the data they get from their simulator is quite good, and that any testing on Friday won't add anything meaningful. Maybe Mercedes needs to start worrying about how good Ferrari's simulator is?
Mercedes worrying
Simulations cant tell you how the track surface has changed since last year.