So we have no idea about when he Will join McLaren, that´s not good.Raleigh wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 02:38From what I can find out there is no clear answer without being able to read James Key's contract.
In short, worst case is Red Bull might be able to keep Key to the end of his contract even if that is longer than 6 months, if the contract allows them to assign him to other working duties.
If the contract does not allow them to reassign Key then the maximum nonworking period of gardening leave is 6 months. Alternatively if there is not on a fixed period of employment in the contract then there will be a leave period which could be shorter than 6 months.
If Key breaches gardening leave then both McLaren and Key can be sued for damages.
Finally Red Bull and STR will probably not release Key early as this would be aiding a competitor, even in more friendly associations like Paddy Lowe leaving Mercedes for Williams he would have had to wait 6 months except that his release from contract became part of the negotiations for Valteri Bottas.
Definitely 2019, when exactly? I'm not sure anybody knows.Vasconia wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 09:56So we have no idea about when he Will join McLaren, that´s not good.Raleigh wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 02:38From what I can find out there is no clear answer without being able to read James Key's contract.
In short, worst case is Red Bull might be able to keep Key to the end of his contract even if that is longer than 6 months, if the contract allows them to assign him to other working duties.
If the contract does not allow them to reassign Key then the maximum nonworking period of gardening leave is 6 months. Alternatively if there is not on a fixed period of employment in the contract then there will be a leave period which could be shorter than 6 months.
If Key breaches gardening leave then both McLaren and Key can be sued for damages.
Finally Red Bull and STR will probably not release Key early as this would be aiding a competitor, even in more friendly associations like Paddy Lowe leaving Mercedes for Williams he would have had to wait 6 months except that his release from contract became part of the negotiations for Valteri Bottas.
I think we can safely say that gardening leave rules are meaningless and teams and people find ways of working within it. Newey will swear absolutely blind that he started at McLaren in August 1997, but when you look at their 1997 car and their front wing it is quite clear he didn't.
Well, depends. If they think they can pass McLaren in the constructors championship because of holding back Key....
The moment Key singed with Mclaren he become a loose end at STR, so he might be part of the team at the moment but how much is he really involved? Keeping him at bay is aimed at damaging Mclaren chances for next year and by this stage I think they are doing good. Time will tell
Yes, for 2019. The more you can disrupt the development of your competitors, the more chance you have against them
Well, you know Toro Rosso is going to be Red Bull's b-team next year, because they will both run the same engines, which means they will be sharing many parts.
Tost said they'll buy everything they can from Redbull. So both suspensions, transmission, packaging, fuel and the general aero will be effected by this as well like Haas. We should expect a reasonably competitive Toro Rosso next year.
Jup, they really should do something about that rule, it sucks.M840TR wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 17:25Tost said they'll buy everything they can from Redbull. So both suspensions, transmission, packaging, fuel and the general aero will be effected by this as well like Haas. We should expect a reasonably competitive Toro Rosso next year.
I agree, it should be allowed for brand new entrants, and even that should be for a specific nbr of seasons. Everyone should build their car or buy the listed parts from an independent supplier, not a competing team.RonDennis wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 17:51Jup, they really should do something about that rule, it sucks.