Great summary. Makes it all a bit more clear.henry wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 11:41There still seems to be a lot of confusion about the role of the FIA in regulation creation and enforcement.
It may be worth comparing it to how other law based societies work. This is my comparison.
The FIA is the executive branch of government.
The FIA promotes and writes laws, but the lawmaking body is the the World Sporting Council. Until approved by the WSC anything the FIA writes or communicates is not a law, or regulation.
The laws are applied by the courts, for the discussion happening now there are two. The Stewards at any race event, who rule on the law during the event*. Outside of the event appeals may be made to the International Court of Appeals.
Just as in national systems the lawmakers and courts are paid for by the executive.
Just as in national systems the laws, approved by the WSC, may contain clauses that permit the executive branch, the FIA, vary or make law under certain circumstances. The most obvious example is in the case of Saety related issues.
The executive also pays for a police force. The police force execute technical duties, e.g. scrutineering, and procedural duties, e.g. flag deployment and monitoring, track limits etc. If they think someone has broken the law they report them to the stewards.
So no matter how much it appears that the FIA executive should be able to decide or not whether something is legal or not, they can’t. Only the WSC can say what the law is and only the courts can decide what it means.
*The event lasts from start of scrutineering to 30 minutes after the publication of provisional results.
Makes sense given the situation, as noted in the article, I don't see what other option they realistically have.
I don't get your logic as the FIA have already checked and cleared it Merc winning this year must have really left you sore.Polite wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 18:09They could face the fia checks! Or they will have poor performance in race and this will be the 3rd evidence in a row of what those rims were aboutsubcritical71 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 16:41Makes sense given the situation, as noted in the article, I don't see what other option they realistically have.
A couple of ideas I had (from most probably to least probable);
But the thing is, would others really bother with copying it? Merc, due to their design philosophy, are the only ones who have had persistent tyre nightmares that other teams really don't have. If they do they can deal with it with suspension/rake characteristics but Merc don't have much of a choice.subcritical71 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 20:48A couple of ideas I had (from most probably to least probable);
- First and foremost, with threats of protest just wrap up both titles without them, not sense taking unnecessary risks.
- Save the innovation for next year. Then let them protest. They can get a few more races next year before the others figure it out, instead of the information getting out this year and having all winter for the others to catch up.
- As you mention, tie up the others with researching a solution (tied with the second bullet).
- They are now on top of their tire issues and don't need the additional heating/cooling of the spacer plate.
- They knew it was questionable and got a few races out of it so their happy with the ROI already.
In my opinion only the first one is true for sure in combination with the last one.subcritical71 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 20:48
A couple of ideas I had (from most probably to least probable);
- First and foremost, with threats of protest just wrap up both titles without them, not sense taking unnecessary risks.
- Save the innovation for next year. Then let them protest. They can get a few more races next year before the others figure it out, instead of the information getting out this year and having all winter for the others to catch up.
- As you mention, tie up the others with researching a solution (tied with the second bullet).
- They are now on top of their tire issues and don't need the additional heating/cooling of the spacer plate.
- They knew it was questionable and got a few races out of it so their happy with the ROI already.
They had that since the beginning.M840TR wrote: ↑09 Nov 2018, 17:22Didn't realize they went from the NACA duct to a more conventional one.
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