Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by CLKGTR » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:37 pm

Interesting, because Brembo said in March 2018 that they will offer three different Brembo disc options with approximately 900, 1200 and 1500 holes.

And now it seems that only in 19th race they offered 1400 hole disc which Ferrari first tested.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Morteza » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm

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Via AMuS
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by dans79 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm

Morteza wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm
https://imgr2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 200133.jpg
Via AMuS
are those supposed to be Ferrari wheels?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Morteza » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:00 pm

dans79 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm
Morteza wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm
https://imgr2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 200133.jpg
Via AMuS
are those supposed to be Ferrari wheels?
Yup, why?
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by dans79 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:01 pm

Morteza wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:00 pm
dans79 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm
Morteza wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm
https://imgr2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 200133.jpg
Via AMuS
are those supposed to be Ferrari wheels?
Yup, why?
I wasn't sure, so i wanted to clarify!

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Morteza » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:02 pm

dans79 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:01 pm
Morteza wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:00 pm
dans79 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm


are those supposed to be Ferrari wheels?
Yup, why?
I wasn't sure, so i wanted to clarify!
AMuS says they are Ferrari. They look like it too (front wheels), so I'm 99% sure they are :) I have to admit Haas has pretty similar designs too
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Sevach » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:15 pm

Juzh wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:18 am
M840TR wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:14 am
I really like this setup direction they've adopted this year. Even if they're not on pole, being faster on the straights gives you a lot of breathing space with the strategy. Easy to overtake, hard to be overtaken.

https://i.redd.it/09azhfhv5su11.jpg
What I find reall odd is that all those high speed numbers were done on their ultra soft run in Q2. In Q3 they were down 8 kmh on the main straight.

q2 on the left, q3 on the right
https://i.imgur.com/3EUaPQZ.jpg

Anyone have a clue what's going on here?
Way late...

Wind direction?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by M840TR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:18 pm

According to Italian motorsport Ferrari is testing for a revolutionary cooling system for 2019 to make the sidepods even thinner.

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In the first free practice session of the Brazilian GP, ​​Ferrari carried out fluid dynamics tests on the sides, mounting six sensors in the bellies to simulate a 2019 system that should allow particularly tight sides.

Ferrari did not try any time in the first free practice session of the GP of Brazil, but the team of the Cavallino worked hard to bring home useful results to the definition of what will be the car of 2019. The technicians directed by Mattia Binotto are studying the new bellies for the 670, that is to say the car next year which for now is only identifiable by the project number.

Enrico Cardile and David Sanchez, the aerodynamics that two years ago had invented on the SF70H a new concept to draw the sides, moving the radiator's mouths farthest from the front tires, avoiding the harmful effects of the turbulence generated by the wheel in motion.

The idea of ​​2017, then copied by many teams this year, will almost certainly be revolutionized on the Red of 2019 and it is rumored that Ferrari could bet on even narrower sides with a different cooling system. It is for this reason that a rake of sensors was also mounted inside the sides that have been modified in their fluid dynamics.

The two SF71Hs shot in different configurations just to give answers to the Maranello technical office. The skilled Albert Fabrega managed to catch the moment when they could see the sensors under the Ferrari body.

The camera, on the other hand, was seen at the bottom of the floor and was used to monitor the flow directed towards the diffuser and the flow diverters that reappeared on the floor near the tracks.

Via Albert Fabrega

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... 10884/amp/

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by MtthsMlw » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:33 pm

How does the author get from sensors inside the engine cover to a revolutionary cooling system for 2019?
Still interesting though.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Morteza » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:05 pm

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by GPR -A » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:13 pm

Blistering on Vettel's Ferrari.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by LM10 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:25 pm

M840TR wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:18 pm
According to Italian motorsport Ferrari is testing for a revolutionary cooling system for 2019 to make the sidepods even thinner.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrkDl-7W4AAucGY.jpg:large

https://cdn-3.motorsport.com/images/amp ... tail-1.jpg

In the first free practice session of the Brazilian GP, ​​Ferrari carried out fluid dynamics tests on the sides, mounting six sensors in the bellies to simulate a 2019 system that should allow particularly tight sides.

Ferrari did not try any time in the first free practice session of the GP of Brazil, but the team of the Cavallino worked hard to bring home useful results to the definition of what will be the car of 2019. The technicians directed by Mattia Binotto are studying the new bellies for the 670, that is to say the car next year which for now is only identifiable by the project number.

Enrico Cardile and David Sanchez, the aerodynamics that two years ago had invented on the SF70H a new concept to draw the sides, moving the radiator's mouths farthest from the front tires, avoiding the harmful effects of the turbulence generated by the wheel in motion.

The idea of ​​2017, then copied by many teams this year, will almost certainly be revolutionized on the Red of 2019 and it is rumored that Ferrari could bet on even narrower sides with a different cooling system. It is for this reason that a rake of sensors was also mounted inside the sides that have been modified in their fluid dynamics.

The two SF71Hs shot in different configurations just to give answers to the Maranello technical office. The skilled Albert Fabrega managed to catch the moment when they could see the sensors under the Ferrari body.

The camera, on the other hand, was seen at the bottom of the floor and was used to monitor the flow directed towards the diffuser and the flow diverters that reappeared on the floor near the tracks.

Via Albert Fabrega

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... 10884/amp/
Very interesting.

How do they analyze a possible revolutionary cooling system by mounting sensors into the inside of the current cover, as seen on the upper picture?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by Just_a_fan » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:07 pm

Perhaps they're trying to confirm the airflow/temperature profile inside the sidepods compared to a CFD model. A bit like they do with aero rakes on the outside.
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by zibby43 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:18 pm



Ferrari experiencing some significant blistering on the SS.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

Post by M840TR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:38 pm

Those are likely to measure air inside the engine cover and get an idea of the breathing space to evaluate how far they can push the packaging.