F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by Big Tea » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:27 pm

Phil wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:21 pm
I look forward to see how the industry develops if everyone adopts a “pay to view” philosophy.

Free television was brilliant because, like the internet, it allows everyone to tune in and watch unconditionally. Some people tuned in, liked what they saw and became fans. Some told their friends about it, and they too became fans.

Pay to view is the opposite of that. People not sure or who dont know, wont pay to find out. Only people who know what they get, end up signing up and paying.

You end up with a smaller viewing platform. This is bad for companies who are sponsors and only care about screen time and reaching as many people as possible. They’d rather have millions watching, rather than a few hundreth-thousand paying Sky viewers.
This is it exactly.
A group of my apprentices were talking about it (waaay back) and disagreeing with one of the others, saying they had no interest in 'watching cars go round in circles' and preferred to watch rally.
We both said more or less, that the race was just the focal point, the ethos was, as we do here, the background and prep, so slowly they (mostly) took an interest.

They would not have paid to find out, and would have been lost as 'consumers'
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by nzjrs » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:31 pm

Big Tea wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:27 pm
Phil wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:21 pm
I look forward to see how the industry develops if everyone adopts a “pay to view” philosophy.

Free television was brilliant because, like the internet, it allows everyone to tune in and watch unconditionally. Some people tuned in, liked what they saw and became fans. Some told their friends about it, and they too became fans.

Pay to view is the opposite of that. People not sure or who dont know, wont pay to find out. Only people who know what they get, end up signing up and paying.

You end up with a smaller viewing platform. This is bad for companies who are sponsors and only care about screen time and reaching as many people as possible. They’d rather have millions watching, rather than a few hundreth-thousand paying Sky viewers.
This is it exactly.
A group of my apprentices were talking about it (waaay back) and disagreeing with one of the others, saying they had no interest in 'watching cars go round in circles' and preferred to watch rally.
We both said more or less, that the race was just the focal point, the ethos was, as we do here, the background and prep, so slowly they (mostly) took an interest.

They would not have paid to find out, and would have been lost as 'consumers'
Well put and I feel the same. Among me and my technical friends this is the path we all took to F1. Interestingly, it is mirrored somewhat by my Wife who too appreciates the race as the focal point - but for her the ethos is the soap opera drama!

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by ME4ME » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:36 pm

I think this is where F1TV can be of great use; they should offer some kind of free trial package including a couple of free races for each new member. If people get hooked, they might either continue to watch via F1TV and pay for their subscription, or get a sports package from their national F1 broadcaster.

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by nevill3 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:34 pm

ME4ME wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:36 pm
I think this is where F1TV can be of great use; they should offer some kind of free trial package including a couple of free races for each new member. If people get hooked, they might either continue to watch via F1TV and pay for their subscription, or get a sports package from their national F1 broadcaster.
The F1TV costs less than $20 for the whole year, but I agree show the first one for free or give the new customers 13 months for the price of 12 months cancel in the first month for a full refund.

This is off topic now so further discussions should really be in this thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26988&start=180
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by NathanOlder » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:28 pm

Sky Sports show multiple races on their SkyMix channel each year that doesn't require a skysports subscription. So anyone with Sky Tv and Virgin Tv in the UK which must be most households will have access to F1 races for no extra fee.

Anyway, less that 3 weeks to testing guys :P
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by PlatinumZealot » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:11 am

3 weeks is a long time.
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by NathanOlder » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:21 am

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:11 am
3 weeks is a long time.
At least its not 3 months! 8)
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by etusch » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:03 am

NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:21 am
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:11 am
3 weeks is a long time.
At least its not 3 months! 8)
It is getting harder to wait when there is lesser time

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by NathanOlder » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:12 am

True, but we now only have 18 full days of no F1 cars on track! And in those 18 days will be most of the car launches.
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by LM10 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:01 pm

NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:12 am
True, but we now only have 18 full days of no F1 cars on track! And in those 18 days will be most of the car launches.
Exactly... car launches and the technical analysis afterwards will be very exciting already!

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by Capharol » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:04 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:01 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:12 am
True, but we now only have 18 full days of no F1 cars on track! And in those 18 days will be most of the car launches.
Exactly... car launches and the technical analysis afterwards will be very exciting already!
guessing these technical analysises will still be "guessing" as we do already at the moment, the real details will be first seen in Melbourne and not during testing
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by LM10 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:15 pm

Capharol wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:04 pm
LM10 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:01 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:12 am
True, but we now only have 18 full days of no F1 cars on track! And in those 18 days will be most of the car launches.
Exactly... car launches and the technical analysis afterwards will be very exciting already!
guessing these technical analysises will still be "guessing" as we do already at the moment, the real details will be first seen in Melbourne and not during testing
There will still be much to talk about. The sidepods, rake, engine cover, in short the general philosophy will be visible already.

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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by etusch » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:41 pm


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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by Capharol » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:55 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:15 pm
Capharol wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:04 pm

guessing these technical analysises will still be "guessing" as we do already at the moment, the real details will be first seen in Melbourne and not during testing
There will still be much to talk about. The sidepods, rake, engine cover, in short the general philosophy will be visible already.
True :lol: :wink:
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Re: F1 2019 Pre-Season Testing Thread

Post by Vasconia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:24 pm

LM10 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:01 pm
NathanOlder wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:12 am
True, but we now only have 18 full days of no F1 cars on track! And in those 18 days will be most of the car launches.
Exactly... car launches and the technical analysis afterwards will be very exciting already!
This pre-season time is great with all the initial excitement.
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