Haas VF-19 Ferrari

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LM10 wrote:
09 Feb 2019, 13:32
Alok91 wrote:
09 Feb 2019, 11:20
LM10 wrote:
08 Feb 2019, 23:19


Nice analysis, thank you.

As seen on the picture, the Haas has a quite large rake and the article says that more teams are expected to follow a bigger rake route. That's interesting because here some people were saying that, on the contrary, low rake approach will likely be the way to go in 2019.
The car has longer wheelbase and lower rake because, its harder to seal floor thanks to loss of outwash from front wing.
Where is this quote from?
from automotor und sport
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... auto-2019/

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f1316 wrote:
07 Feb 2019, 23:40
Interested in particular by:

- no top opening for the sidepod cooling inlet
- big shark fin, meaning less packaging space taken up by components (might allude to longer car)
- the stacked waste gates

These all hint at things Ferrari have done on the engine side - seems like they may have reduced cooling demands and very interesting to understand what the effect of the stackedwastegates is; the testing by Ferrari last year shows a significant and long lead development path, so unlikely to be trivial. Some kind of exhaust blowing effect you’d imagine, perhaps linked to the size and shape of the new rear wing.
Wasnt the top opening on the Ferrari supposed to improve airflow over the sidepods and reduce drag or lift or suck a boundary layer?
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Hass and williams used a broad, shaped mid-wing to get a similar effect of having two openings.
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Blackout wrote:
09 Feb 2019, 16:48
f1316 wrote:
07 Feb 2019, 23:40
Interested in particular by:

- no top opening for the sidepod cooling inlet
- big shark fin, meaning less packaging space taken up by components (might allude to longer car)
- the stacked waste gates

These all hint at things Ferrari have done on the engine side - seems like they may have reduced cooling demands and very interesting to understand what the effect of the stackedwastegates is; the testing by Ferrari last year shows a significant and long lead development path, so unlikely to be trivial. Some kind of exhaust blowing effect you’d imagine, perhaps linked to the size and shape of the new rear wing.
Wasnt the top opening on the Ferrari supposed to improve airflow over the sidepods and reduce drag or lift or suck a boundary layer?
Maybe. My understanding is that you would have the minimum cooling inlets possible and that the placement of the top exit was to a. Reduce the frontal area b. Direct ‘cleaner’ air to the radiator.

But you may also be right, I don’t know.

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Technical overview courtesy of Craig Scarborough

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/techn ... challenger

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I love the way the chassis bulkhead blends into the nose. The transition is very smooth and elegant.

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