2019 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 15-17

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GPR -A wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:24
Other than the top two teams, I am expecting some shocks in qualifying tomorrow, if the FP2 long run pace is anything to go by. =P~
So you think the order is
Mercedes
Ferrari
Renault
RBR
Alfa

??

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Bill_Kar wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:29
GPR -A wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:24
Other than the top two teams, I am expecting some shocks in qualifying tomorrow, if the FP2 long run pace is anything to go by. =P~
So you think the order is
Mercedes
Ferrari
Renault
RBR
Alfa

??
or maybe
RB
Alfa
Ferrari
Merc

who can really tell, it is all guessing .....for now
Tomorrow we will see who is on top and who loses, and even then, Australia is a specific track and in China it could be different at all

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Here I bring you the best laps. You are welcome :)

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Capharol wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:27
GPR -A wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:24
Other than the top two teams, I am expecting some shocks in qualifying tomorrow, if the FP2 long run pace is anything to go by. =P~
well it isn't, and you are (as we all are) only guessing ..... just stop for a bit with these assumptions and stick to the facts.
because you can't base a short run with a long run and especcially not a Qualifying run.....
Talk about hypocrisy.
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Capharol wrote:
17 Jan 2019, 12:30
So if someone wants to go with his "gut" in here, it seems, he can do so freely and without always being asked for evidence.
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For those thinking the season is already over.... Melbourne is a street circuit and very atypical in that sense. Don't assume the pecking order based on this one race. What applies/applied in Barcelona does not here necessarily.
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Phil wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:37
For those thinking the season is already over.... Melbourne is not a street circuit and very atypical in that sense. Don't assume the pecking order based on this one race. What applies/applied in Barcelona does not here necessarily.
Atleast one can assume, even with low rake, a car can be faster. :)

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dren wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 11:51
Williams is even further back than I thought. Kubica said he was avoiding the kerbs due to lack of parts.
hopefully that accounts for a fair bit of the gap, remember when the disaster that was nissan's LMP1 car ran at Le Mans and were loosing seconds over a lap because the drivers couldn't touch the kerbs, in that case it didn't matter much because the whole thing was so bad but maybe with running over kerbs, williams are at least in touching distance of being a respectable slowest rather than the current embarrassing pace.

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Mercedes was ahead by 7 tenths last year, then in Bahrein Ferrari was the fastest car. So even if Ferrari is significantly slower in this weekend, it doesn't mean that the championship is over.
I also don't believe that Ferrari is only 1 tenths ahead of Alfa Romeo.

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Phil wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:37
For those thinking the season is already over.... Melbourne is not a street circuit and very atypical in that sense. Don't assume the pecking order based on this one race. What applies/applied in Barcelona does not here necessarily.
fully agree with you Phil, but still there are some that think after Melbourne Qualifying the season is over and the pecking order is written in Stone

@GPR-A the difference is i don't put it out 3x in 1 hour and assuming a qualifying line up based on the long runs....

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AUS is always a bit of a crap shoot, but if teams are off by 8 tenths come qualifying, that's still a large gap. We will see tomorrow.
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https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... s-ferrari/
"We had difficulties with the setup," sports director Helmut Marko admits. "If we made the car faster in two corners, it got worse in two other corners." The Red Bull engineers therefore decided to declare the second training test drive. It was more important to find a good balance, so check how much the tires break down. "We saw on Gasly that we are doing well."

Verstappen tried several voting options on the RB15. His car was refueled again and again because of the better comparability between the individual test rounds. The Dutchman never had a free round, so that the eight-tenths do not correspond to the true backlog. "But even if everything went well, we'd still be half a second behind," Marko admits. One of the top speeds and acceleration values ​​already indicates. Honda has massively caught up with Ferrari and Mercedes.

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There is way more interesting things to quote out of the AMuS article. This one for example:
AMuS wrote:Die Frage, ob Mercedes in Barcelona nur geblufft hat oder Ferrari am Freitag in Melbourne unter Wert geschlagen wurde, ist eigentlich schnell beantwortet. Der Abstand von Mercedes zur Spitze des Mittelfeldes ist mit 0,9 Sekunden gleich geblieben. Ferrari und Red Bull dagegen hatten in Melbourne nur ein Zehntel Luft. Also müssen sie Probleme gehabt haben.
In other words, the pre-season testing showed that the top teams had a gap to the midfield of about 0.9s. This is still accurate, given Mercedes is 0.9s to a second ahead of the midfield. The only inconsistency with expectations is that Ferrari is barely ahead of the midfield, so it's safe to assume it was simply Ferrari who were struggling with set-up and not that Mercedes are simply way ahead of everyone because they are faster.
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BwajSF wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:27
GPR -A wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:15
zibby43 wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 09:24
Ferrari front left from FP2:

https://twitter.com/albertfabrega/statu ... 68480?s=21
Weather prediction for tomorrow, is going to be far more hotter than today.

https://i.screenshot.net/9p3x2ul
Ferrari were reported to be using different wheelhub designs for the left and right wheel itself.
so may be now they know which hub not to use for the weekend...
I believe they plan (or at least tested) to run asymmetric

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Capharol wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:31
Bill_Kar wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:29
GPR -A wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:24
Other than the top two teams, I am expecting some shocks in qualifying tomorrow, if the FP2 long run pace is anything to go by. =P~
So you think the order is
Mercedes
Ferrari
Renault
RBR
Alfa

??
or maybe
RB
Alfa
Ferrari
Merc

who can really tell, it is all guessing .....for now
Tomorrow we will see who is on top and who loses, and even then, Australia is a specific track and in China it could be different at all
Of course we can't tell for sure, im just asking his guess.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 13:19
Capharol wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:31
Bill_Kar wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 12:29


So you think the order is
Mercedes
Ferrari
Renault
RBR
Alfa

??
or maybe
RB
Alfa
Ferrari
Merc

who can really tell, it is all guessing .....for now
Tomorrow we will see who is on top and who loses, and even then, Australia is a specific track and in China it could be different at all
Of course we can't tell for sure, im just asking his guess.
Well to answer it partially..... Renault ain't infront of RB

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