GrandAxe wrote: ↑15 Apr 2019, 01:34
mmred wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 15:59
GrandAxe wrote: ↑14 Apr 2019, 13:01
They were locking the inside fronts in order to be able to make the corner - that's understeer. They don't have enough bite to get into corners tightly enough. As for the fast corners, it should serve them well for Monza and Spa.
their understeer was just in slow corners....
points to mechanical issues, connex to front braking
this points to
maybe weight balance transfer due to running higher rake
without the advantage of a stable rear that delivers the downforce at those speed ( so the rear height changes so much that aero stalls and the variation is seen with too much braking on the front but the aero doesnt deliver its downforce)
this points to
can be therefore rear suspension stiffness maybe linked to tyre temp setup see how much leclerc race was lost on a different tyre management that gave vettel more speed after the start
so
the real issue can also be pirelli canging tyre pressure the nx tims in favour of their rivals across all these years
but cars must win wathever happens...like the 2nd benetton ear of schumi or something like that... in the end you win despite every penalt or you just lose
These aren't road cars. In F1, the slower the corner, the more important downforce is; the faster the corner, the more important drag is. It is counter-intutive to road cars.
Its why a street track like Monaco requires high downforce; while Monza, a high speed track that's mostly straights and fast corners requires low downforce.
The Ferrari' cars problem is not having the downforce to cope with slow corners, so it uses up its tyres, goes slower, as a result of which it has even less downforce and tyres get colder - its a vicious cycle.
The solution is either more aero, or as with Merc in the aerly hybrid years, a much more powerful engine than the rest of the field.
hey
it happens i am an aero engineer
there s a famous saying
"under 90kmh aero doesnt matter" because basically at that speed everything stalls and you just need tyre and suspensions
i guess this explanation is enough or you to understand
you say fast corner need less drag, true, i said it too, bt mostly more downforce (SO THEY HAVE IT )
but it is true what i said the importance of the key elements of the car is still very strongly the same ( we were never talking road cars werent we?)
UNDER 90 SUSPENSIONS AND TYRES TEMP DO THE TRICK( now tire temp may be affected by the rest of the track behaviour so in this case more downforce helps but its an issue related mostly to suspensions and even mostly heating management of the tyre : that front wing may be not beneficial in that case and cooling ducts are even more important)
OVER 90 drag but mostly downforce
on straights drag but mostly engine
unless you have a super engine then you can put all the downforce you want as you said too
we re basically saying same things beside the under 90 observation
