Red Bull RB15

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by lio007 » Thu May 30, 2019 2:15 pm

In this image we can perfectly see the damage Max' floor suffered from the Bottas clash at the pit stop:
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Just_a_fan » Thu May 30, 2019 4:20 pm

lio007 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:15 pm
In this image we can perfectly see the damage Max' floor suffered from the Bottas clash at the pit stop:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7o8pBqXoAANDhB.jpg:large
On a real circuit, that much damage would probably have been enough to cause problems. Somewhere like Silverstone where there are high speed turns that need a back end that is obediant. I would expect he would be losing some rear downforce with that damage.
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by roon » Thu May 30, 2019 6:57 pm

Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by ispano6 » Fri May 31, 2019 2:51 pm

roon wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.
It would have been uneven but maybe it made left turns easier 😉

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Maplesoup » Fri May 31, 2019 6:46 pm

roon wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.
The amount of drag generated would be nothing compared to the loss of downforce from the diffuser.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by roon » Fri May 31, 2019 6:52 pm

Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Maplesoup » Fri May 31, 2019 7:10 pm

roon wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 6:52 pm
Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?
Practically any damage on the outer surface of the car will have some effect on laptime. The impact would be higher on faster circuits obviously. Most mechanic faults or damage would lead to a retirement.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by McMrocks » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:08 am

roon wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 6:52 pm
Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?
I think losing an endplate isn't that bad. We saw Massa in a Ferrari getting faster at Barcelona once the endplate was missing.

Without the "minimum surface visible from the side" we wouldn't even see endplates i think. Especially now since they can't help generate outwash anymore.

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by humble sabot » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:38 pm

I'd disagree with that. The endplate would remain particularly useful in controlling the outflow.
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:11 pm

humble sabot wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:38 pm
I'd disagree with that. The endplate would remain particularly useful in controlling the outflow.
Yes, but with the previous regs their function was mostly structural, holding up the cascades. The main flaps and cascades were the ones doing most of the flow control. The Indycar front wings from a couple years ago had no endplates at all, but a very similar “outwash tunnel” construction.
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by F1NAC » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:11 pm

Vertical fins added around S-duct

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by bigblue » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:50 pm

Those are unusual, not seen anyone else do something like that ?

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by MtthsMlw » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:52 pm

bigblue wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:50 pm
Those are unusual, not seen anyone else do something like that ?
Merc and Alfa so far. Differently shaped though.
Renault too it seems.
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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Sevach » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:05 pm

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Re: Red Bull RB15

Post by Morteza » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:07 pm

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