Red Bull RB15

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In this image we can perfectly see the damage Max' floor suffered from the Bottas clash at the pit stop:
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lio007 wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 2:15 pm
In this image we can perfectly see the damage Max' floor suffered from the Bottas clash at the pit stop:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7o8pBqXoAANDhB.jpg:large
On a real circuit, that much damage would probably have been enough to cause problems. Somewhere like Silverstone where there are high speed turns that need a back end that is obediant. I would expect he would be losing some rear downforce with that damage.
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Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.

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roon wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.
It would have been uneven but maybe it made left turns easier 😉

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roon wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:57 pm
Or the other way. A gain with an increase in drag. Interesting to think the floor use to be about as wide as that knocked of section.
The amount of drag generated would be nothing compared to the loss of downforce from the diffuser.

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Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?

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roon wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 6:52 pm
Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?
Practically any damage on the outer surface of the car will have some effect on laptime. The impact would be higher on faster circuits obviously. Most mechanic faults or damage would lead to a retirement.

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roon wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 6:52 pm
Makes me wonder what damage could actually reduce laptime. Leaking fuel tank would be an obvious one. RB used to shed monkey seats mid-race. Didn't they?
I think losing an endplate isn't that bad. We saw Massa in a Ferrari getting faster at Barcelona once the endplate was missing.

Without the "minimum surface visible from the side" we wouldn't even see endplates i think. Especially now since they can't help generate outwash anymore.

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I'd disagree with that. The endplate would remain particularly useful in controlling the outflow.
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humble sabot wrote:
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I'd disagree with that. The endplate would remain particularly useful in controlling the outflow.
Yes, but with the previous regs their function was mostly structural, holding up the cascades. The main flaps and cascades were the ones doing most of the flow control. The Indycar front wings from a couple years ago had no endplates at all, but a very similar “outwash tunnel” construction.
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Vertical fins added around S-duct

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Those are unusual, not seen anyone else do something like that ?

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bigblue wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:50 pm
Those are unusual, not seen anyone else do something like that ?
Merc and Alfa so far. Differently shaped though.
Renault too it seems.
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