Yeah we're camping at the track itself, got 3 day general admission tickets so we'll be scoping the whole track out with plenty of nice cold beers Haha! Does anyone know what there is in the way of bars and stuff there? And mainly if you can take your own alcohol in?bosyber wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:38 pmHope you only start the bbq once you get there, not while seated in the car - it's pretty scorching all through Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Austria! It's quite the road-trip, but sounds like a great tour, enjoy the views, and hope you have a smooth ride and a great time!ajdavison2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:37 amCurrently enroute to Spielberg for the grand prix. Can't wait, although we are driving from Newcastle (north east England for those that are curious) so wish me luck Haha! Doing a pitlane walk on Thursday for the first time so I'll try and snap any photos I can!
Are you camping, or got a place 'nearby'? The latter is what we did two years ago, got an hotel in the mountains - added week with family, was pretty great, and traffic into the track was (as expected really with Red Bull as event organiser) orderly and swift, but, you are not as much in the race/party atmosphere then.
It will definitely be interesting. Ferrari is in the process of adding more DF so they don't loose so much time in the corners to Mercedes, but the consequence of this is that they will also be adding drag that eats away at their strait line advantage.izzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:18 pmHmmm well it didn't sound quite like that on scuderiafans.com
it sounds like Mattia was hoping for more than they got. i'm not wishing you down, just i wouldn't build your hopes up too much, just yet. I mean it's only a week“I don’t think we got all the answers from this weekend because the floor not working properly [is] a lack of answers,” he admitted. “So we will still work on that one. I think we’ll have some test items again in Austria, try to better understand. I think we will fully understand only when all the parts properly work as expected.”
yes they are converging aren't they, we saw that in France a bit already as edit zibby said i think. And who wouldn't love to see Charles vs Lewis in equal cars??? Still, i'm not really predicting that based on what we know, but hopefully TV coverage of the midfield is a bit better this time, at leastdans79 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:39 pmIt will definitely be interesting. Ferrari is in the process of adding more DF so they don't loose so much time in the corners to Mercedes, but the consequence of this is that they will also be adding drag that eats away at their strait line advantage.
Mercedes is most likely working to reduce their current drag levels So they don't loose so much time to Ferrari on the straits, but the consequence of this is that they will also be reducing df and that eats away at their advantage in the turns.
I honestly have no idea who should have an edge this weekend. Their aren't many corners, but the straits aren't that long either, so it's kind of a toss up.
That's a key point re: the straights. While there are straights at this circuit, they aren't very long ones because the lap is so short. Ferrari's straightline advantage has primarily been in the final phase of acceleration in longer straights.
Maybe partly due to a new technical directive further clamping down on RW flexing.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:52 pmThat's a key point re: the straights. While there are straights at this circuit, they aren't very long ones because the lap is so short. Ferrari's straightline advantage has primarily been in the final phase of acceleration in longer straights.
I'm still trying to figure out how Mercedes completely ate up Ferrari's straightline advantage in Q3 in France.
There are a few critical corners, and a few short (relative to other circuits) straights. Going to be a fascinating weekend.
what's this, I didn't hear anything about a new directive?
Yep, that's what I was referring to.dans79 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:09 pmwhat's this, I didn't hear anything about a new directive?
Edit: I found this when I went searching.
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -fia-2019/
Interesting. So Ferrari were dumping drag on the straights by bolting the RW mainplane in a way that would facilitate movement/flexing.MtthsMlw wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 pmMaybe partly due to a new technical directive further clamping down on RW flexing.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:52 pmThat's a key point re: the straights. While there are straights at this circuit, they aren't very long ones because the lap is so short. Ferrari's straightline advantage has primarily been in the final phase of acceleration in longer straights.
I'm still trying to figure out how Mercedes completely ate up Ferrari's straightline advantage in Q3 in France.
There are a few critical corners, and a few short (relative to other circuits) straights. Going to be a fascinating weekend.
That's not a fact. Ferrari was accusing Mercedes of doing so and Mercedes was accusing Ferrari of doing so. There is nothing which got confirmed.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:55 pmInteresting. So Ferrari were dumping drag on the straights by bolting the RW mainplane in a way that would facilitate movement/flexing.MtthsMlw wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:05 pmMaybe partly due to a new technical directive further clamping down on RW flexing.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:52 pm
That's a key point re: the straights. While there are straights at this circuit, they aren't very long ones because the lap is so short. Ferrari's straightline advantage has primarily been in the final phase of acceleration in longer straights.
I'm still trying to figure out how Mercedes completely ate up Ferrari's straightline advantage in Q3 in France.
There are a few critical corners, and a few short (relative to other circuits) straights. Going to be a fascinating weekend.
Ferrari also apparently asked for 2 races worth of time to re-write their software that was exhaust blowing the crash structure furniture area.
Nothing is ever confirmed in this sport, but somehow performance is impacted the next race. Remember last year's additional oil tanks and plumbing with the "smoky" Ferrari ICE? I love this sport.LM10 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:12 pmThat's not a fact. Ferrari was accusing Mercedes of doing so and Mercedes was accusing Ferrari of doing so. There is nothing which got confirmed.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:55 pmInteresting. So Ferrari were dumping drag on the straights by bolting the RW mainplane in a way that would facilitate movement/flexing.
Ferrari also apparently asked for 2 races worth of time to re-write their software that was exhaust blowing the crash structure furniture area.
There were no additional oil tanks last year and Ferrari kept on smoking the whole of last year, no matter the amount of sensors which were put on the car and the amount of scrutineering done.TAG wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:47 pmNothing is ever confirmed in this sport, but somehow performance is impacted the next race. Remember last year's additional oil tanks and plumbing with the "smoky" Ferrari ICE? I love this sport.LM10 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:12 pmThat's not a fact. Ferrari was accusing Mercedes of doing so and Mercedes was accusing Ferrari of doing so. There is nothing which got confirmed.zibby43 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:55 pm
Interesting. So Ferrari were dumping drag on the straights by bolting the RW mainplane in a way that would facilitate movement/flexing.
Ferrari also apparently asked for 2 races worth of time to re-write their software that was exhaust blowing the crash structure furniture area.