Also,Ferrari does not have the glitz it used to have (except with die hard Ferrari fans ).
For a start Valterri would bring a lot of sensitive info with him, the way the Merc team works, things they have been doing, maybe even things in the pipline.marvin78 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 14:40That does not explain why it must be Bottas. You can find plenty of those drivers.
But all the other things in your post are assumptions, so I don't think they really must do anything. I think that they have much more data than you have, so I think they do what they MUST do but that may be a completely other way. Bulding an equal car to Mercedes would be one thing (over a whole season, not just a few races, like in 17/18) they could do but that is noch easy because Mercedes does a really good job.
Disagree, with winning a WDC at Ferrari he can show that he is not just a very good but 1x WDC who got a bunch of free titles and wins in the most dominant team to ever grace the sport.
You can get a lot more and better info far cheaper by hiring one of the engineersNathanOlder wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 16:13For a start Valterri would bring a lot of sensitive info with him, the way the Merc team works, things they have been doing, maybe even things in the pipline.marvin78 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 14:40That does not explain why it must be Bottas. You can find plenty of those drivers.
But all the other things in your post are assumptions, so I don't think they really must do anything. I think that they have much more data than you have, so I think they do what they MUST do but that may be a completely other way. Bulding an equal car to Mercedes would be one thing (over a whole season, not just a few races, like in 17/18) they could do but that is noch easy because Mercedes does a really good job.
As Izzy pointed out, Valterri is a perfect number 2, Solid fast reliable safe. Perfect for a team mate to the growing improving Leclerc.
Who would you suggest would be better for Ferrari to put next to Charles?
True, but are the engineers available? Valterri would be if Merc put Ocon in.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 23:52You can get a lot more and better info far cheaper by hiring one of the engineersNathanOlder wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 16:13For a start Valterri would bring a lot of sensitive info with him, the way the Merc team works, things they have been doing, maybe even things in the pipline.marvin78 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 14:40That does not explain why it must be Bottas. You can find plenty of those drivers.
But all the other things in your post are assumptions, so I don't think they really must do anything. I think that they have much more data than you have, so I think they do what they MUST do but that may be a completely other way. Bulding an equal car to Mercedes would be one thing (over a whole season, not just a few races, like in 17/18) they could do but that is noch easy because Mercedes does a really good job.
As Izzy pointed out, Valterri is a perfect number 2, Solid fast reliable safe. Perfect for a team mate to the growing improving Leclerc.
Who would you suggest would be better for Ferrari to put next to Charles?
I am sure some low-level engineers with enough info (at least more than a driver, who are not trained engineers and thus can only provide very general info) will be available for relatively small costs. I dont know about UK law but I believe in a lot of Western countries you cannot keep an employee trapped in a contract when they can get a significantly better job elsewhere unless they are very senior positions with the payscale matching giving away that freedom (think of C-level etc).NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 23:54True, but are the engineers available? Valterri would be if Merc put Ocon in.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 23:52You can get a lot more and better info far cheaper by hiring one of the engineersNathanOlder wrote: ↑16 Jul 2019, 16:13
For a start Valterri would bring a lot of sensitive info with him, the way the Merc team works, things they have been doing, maybe even things in the pipline.
As Izzy pointed out, Valterri is a perfect number 2, Solid fast reliable safe. Perfect for a team mate to the growing improving Leclerc.
Who would you suggest would be better for Ferrari to put next to Charles?
There is indeed a lot of employee protection in Europe, not just in pay, securities and healthcare/pension but also the freedom to terminate your contract within a reasonable time. Normally you’ll have an exclusivities clause in your contract (that you can’t work for a competitor within a year) but these won’t hold up in court because they are forbidden by eu law. That’s why teams use gardening leave, where they pay employees for up to a year to sit at home before they leave for a competitor.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 00:01I am sure some low-level engineers with enough info (at least more than a driver, who are not trained engineers and thus can only provide very general info) will be available for relatively small costs. I dont know about UK law but I believe in a lot of Western countries you cannot keep an employee trapped in a contract when they can get a significantly better job elsewhere unless they are very senior positions with the payscale matching giving away that freedom (think of C-level etc).NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Jul 2019, 23:54True, but are the engineers available? Valterri would be if Merc put Ocon in.
That would be a good solution - he's a Merc driver tho so I wonder if Ferrari would veto it?Pyrone89 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 01:50How about Ocon replacing Grosjean for the remainder of the season, Haas gets a better driver and has time to look for a 2020 replacement, Ocon and his future employer happy because he can get back in the race ritum already instead of having to waste the first races at his new employer to do that. If Haas plays it smart they can even get some money on top of it from Ocon’s future employer for that service
I have read this in a few places from people that have very close course in the paddock. I'd be surprised if they could get it done before the next grand prix but I think Grosjeans time in F1 is up, probably should have been a while ago to be honest as he makes to many mistakes.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 01:50How about Ocon replacing Grosjean for the remainder of the season, Haas gets a better driver and has time to look for a 2020 replacement, Ocon and his future employer happy because he can get back in the race ritum already instead of having to waste the first races at his new employer to do that. If Haas plays it smart they can even get some money on top of it from Ocon’s future employer for that service