2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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yelistener wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Just when Mercedes gets a not-so successful upgrade and you'd think Ferrari could benefit from that, Ferrari beat themselves first. :lol:
Is the upgrade not successful? Who has reported that?

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zibby43 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:58
yelistener wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Just when Mercedes gets a not-so successful upgrade and you'd think Ferrari could benefit from that, Ferrari beat themselves first. :lol:
Is the upgrade not successful? Who has reported that?
Not sure but I think it was mentioned that they reverted some of their aero. Don't quote me on that though.
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Restomaniac wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:56
MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:52
Ridiculous. Merc is so lucky.
Lucky or just made a bulletproof car?
If we adjust for tire and normal Ferrari Q3 mode, could Leclerc have beaten Hamilton's time?
Hello experts?

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Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Merc lucky because they're doing better with their reliability :S?
You know, you can interpret everything this way. Mercedes also had issues this season. It happens. And this time hey are lucky that the favorites beat themselves. It’s simple as that.

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zibby43 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:58
yelistener wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Just when Mercedes gets a not-so successful upgrade and you'd think Ferrari could benefit from that, Ferrari beat themselves first. :lol:
Is the upgrade not successful? Who has reported that?
Didn't Lewis choose to go back to use some of the old spec before quali??
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Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:59
zibby43 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:58
yelistener wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Just when Mercedes gets a not-so successful upgrade and you'd think Ferrari could benefit from that, Ferrari beat themselves first. :lol:
Is the upgrade not successful? Who has reported that?
Not sure but I think it was mentioned that they reverted some of their aero. Don't quote me on that though.
No Mercedes just closed up their wider bodies due to the temps no being baking hot.

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Hamilton sounded knackered there.

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RB messed up, pole was maybe possible if Gasly had provided Verstappen a slipstream. Tomorrow it is Bottas vs Hamilton, Merc is way faster in racepace than RB and start on the better tyre.
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LM10 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 16:00
Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Merc lucky because they're doing better with their reliability :S?
You know, you can interpret everything this way. Mercedes also had issues this season. It happens. And this time hey are lucky that the favorites beat themselves. It’s simple as that.
Sure, except in this case it's pushing it too far. This is Ferrari's problem. They let themselves down. Saying Lec would have beaten Hamilton had it not been for whatever issue there was, is conjecture because Hamilton just posted a monster time himself. I certainly wasn't expecting him to hit that, maybe others did.

It's a perspective, yes, but one based on a big if. Facts are that Ferrari's reliability came up, which is a mechanical, mathematical issue (not external like rain, meteor etc.).

Trust me I didn't want to see Lec or Vet out. But that's just how it is.
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Restomaniac wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 16:02
Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:59
zibby43 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:58


Is the upgrade not successful? Who has reported that?
Not sure but I think it was mentioned that they reverted some of their aero. Don't quote me on that though.
No Mercedes just closed up their wider bodies due to the temps no being baking hot.
My understanding as well.

HAM’s Q3 lap was impressive. Apparently he’s under the weather today.

Fuel system issue for LEC.

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LM10 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:56
TAG wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:53
Congratulations to Mercedes I guess?
Was this the walk in the park you were talking about?
My worst fears realized. Rain tomorrow would be a treat though. Everyone starting on inters, so let it be written, so let it be done.
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Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 16:05
LM10 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 16:00
Sierra117 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 15:57
Merc lucky because they're doing better with their reliability :S?
You know, you can interpret everything this way. Mercedes also had issues this season. It happens. And this time hey are lucky that the favorites beat themselves. It’s simple as that.
Sure, except in this case it's pushing it too far. This is Ferrari's problem. They let themselves down. Saying Lec would have beaten Hamilton had it not been for whatever issue there was, is conjecture because Hamilton just posted a monster time himself. I certainly wasn't expecting him to hit that, maybe others did.

It's a perspective, yes, but one based on a big if. Facts are that Ferrari's reliability came up, which is a mechanical, mathematical issue (not external like rain, meteor etc.).

Trust me I didn't want to see Lec or Vet out. But that's just how it is.
I’m sure Leclerc would easily have been in a position to beat Hamilton’s time. I don’t know how you know that Ferrari pushed it too far or even showed their hands before Q3? Leclerc did a 1:12.2 in Q1 already.

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So without that 4 tenths a lap update Merc would have been just 3 tenths faster than Kimi? Something is off here. :wink:
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If Bottas doesn't overtake Verstappen at the start of the race, Verstappen will beat Hamilton in a one on one duel. The weather will definitely play a role tomorrow, knowing when to change tires, when to take advantage of safety cars will be crucial tomorrow. If it rains or not, there will be at least 1 virtual or actual safety car. The track is narrow in places and tangles usually end badly, especially in a first lap scenario where cars can get a good tow down to turn 2 and then again down the parabolic curve.
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